US Politics V - now with 20% more echo chamber - Page 50 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-28-2018, 12:23 PM   #981
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: DC
Posts: 68,170
Local Time: 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvine511 View Post
You aren’t conflating Russians with The Russian government, are you?

Most people I know make distinctions.

I do enjoy being called right wing.
You really need to stop pushing your Evangelical values on the rest of us
__________________

Headache in a Suitcase is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 12:28 PM   #982
Blue Crack Addict
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 18,451
Local Time: 12:13 AM
I find the "General Eastern European xenophobia" comment to be strange, Vlad. What makes you believe that?
__________________

LuckyNumber7 is online now  
Old 01-28-2018, 01:30 PM   #983
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: DC
Posts: 68,170
Local Time: 11:13 PM
If you think our President's a criminal, it means you hate Russians.

I thought this was obvious.
Headache in a Suitcase is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 01:38 PM   #984
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 28,170
Local Time: 12:13 AM
I'm totally confused as to how not wanting the Russian govt to interfere with our elections has anything to do with the Russian people.
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 01:45 PM   #985
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 09:13 PM
Some people do have a hard time differentiating. Like when my dad, upon hearing abput my planned first solo trip to Ireland: "oh no, but Europe hates Americans!"

I mean, that was likely more due to his constant Fox News watching than trying to differentiate between "not liking US policies vs not liking USians."
corianderstem is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 01:57 PM   #986
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 33,465
Local Time: 12:13 AM
Is it bad to actively root against Russian athletes in the upcoming Olympics like it’s 1988 again because of state doping and all?

Asking for a xenophobic friend.
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 02:58 PM   #987
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 28,170
Local Time: 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvine511 View Post

Asking for a xenophobic friend.
Lol, I love that
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 03:18 PM   #988
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 28,170
Local Time: 12:13 AM
The African American unemployment rate has declined from 2011 to January 2017. So is Trump now taking credit for that?

Once again he decides to go after an African American person on Twitter. I loved that Van Jones Jay Z interview, it's probably on YouTube or cnn.com

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ed_to_him.html
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 05:47 PM   #989
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
BEAL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: San Diego
Posts: 6,514
Local Time: 04:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen View Post
I'm totally confused as to how not wanting the Russian govt to interfere with our elections has anything to do with the Russian people.


It might have more to do with karma as it’s something the USA has done to other countries in the past.

Propping up the political opponent who would best serve our interest in that region.

Russia just did that to us and we don’t like it.
BEAL is online now  
Old 01-28-2018, 05:54 PM   #990
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 33,465
Local Time: 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAL View Post
It might have more to do with karma as it’s something the USA has done to other countries in the past.

Propping up the political opponent who would best serve our interest in that region.

Russia just did that to us and we don’t like it.


It doesn’t mean we can’t be mad about it. It also means that we must point out to Trump supporters that Trump is Russian-approved, so they are pinko commie bastards, in that 1983 kind of Cold War way.

It’s less about Russia, really, and more what this says about the deplorables.
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 07:16 PM   #991
Blue Crack Addict
 
Vlad n U 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 28,370
Local Time: 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7 View Post
I find the "General Eastern European xenophobia" comment to be strange, Vlad. What makes you believe that?
In certain sections - particularly on Twitter, there is a lot of prejudice towards Russians (and yes, by extension, Eastern Europeans) that extends past the Russian state's involvement in domestic US affairs. I've found it to be quite noticeable, hence my earlier posts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase View Post
If you think our President's a criminal, it means you hate Russians.

I thought this was obvious.
Yikes, I did not mean that. But you can have your fun, I suppose.
Vlad n U 2 is offline  
Old 01-28-2018, 07:40 PM   #992
Blue Crack Addict
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 18,451
Local Time: 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad n U 2 View Post
In certain sections - particularly on Twitter, there is a lot of prejudice towards Russians (and yes, by extension, Eastern Europeans) that extends past the Russian state's involvement in domestic US affairs. I've found it to be quite noticeable, hence my earlier posts.



Yikes, I did not mean that. But you can have your fun, I suppose.


I think it's very fair to say lots of people hate the Russian government and don't think twice about the people, much less fear them. In fact, Id argue they imagine Russia to be a poverty stricken third world who is threatened from their government as much as we do.

I mean, is this not how rational people also see the US government? And when that hate is extended to the people, those haters become assholes.
LuckyNumber7 is online now  
Old 01-28-2018, 08:06 PM   #993
Blue Crack Addict
 
Moonlit_Angel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo...
Posts: 20,716
Local Time: 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAL View Post
It might have more to do with karma as it’s something the USA has done to other countries in the past.

Propping up the political opponent who would best serve our interest in that region.

Russia just did that to us and we don’t like it.
That's a fair argument to make, yeah.

Speaking for myself, I don't like it when we get involved in messing with other countries' governments, either, 'cause we don't tend to have the best track record on that front. I'm all for supporting any country that wants to get rid of dictators and so forth, but we often tend to go about doing that the wrong way.

But yeah, as for Russia itself, I've no issue with the country or the people as a whole whatsoever. And while I do agree the Russian government's interference in our election is a problem, and those in our government who colluded with them should be held responsible for it, it's also one of many factors that led to our current clusterfuck, and we need to address the other issues as well.

I do share Irvine's sentiment that the right shrugging off the Russian influence aspect after decades of anti-communist hysteria is a very strange development that I honestly don't get, though.
Moonlit_Angel is online now  
Old 01-29-2018, 07:10 AM   #994
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 28,170
Local Time: 12:13 AM
And I really believed he was. Another illusion shattered.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/28/polit...iew/index.html
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 01-29-2018, 02:08 PM   #995
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
BEAL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: San Diego
Posts: 6,514
Local Time: 04:13 AM
McCabe is out at FBI.

The slow process to get to Mueller still going.

I hope Mueller indicts Junior tomorrow before State of Union
BEAL is online now  
Old 01-29-2018, 10:00 PM   #996
Blue Crack Addict
 
PhilsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Philadelphia
Posts: 19,218
Local Time: 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvine511 View Post
Im glad there’s more common ground for the far left and the far right to occupy.
Every time I wander in here after a while it does not take long to remind me why I left.
PhilsFan is offline  
Old 01-29-2018, 11:11 PM   #997
Blue Crack Addict
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 18,451
Local Time: 12:13 AM
Come back and reestablish a new peef order
LuckyNumber7 is online now  
Old 01-30-2018, 12:49 AM   #998
Blue Crack Addict
 
Vlad n U 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 28,370
Local Time: 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilsFan View Post
Every time I wander in here after a while it does not take long to remind me why I left.
I'm all for a healthy debate but you see stuff like that and wonder why it's even worth bothering. Hence my activity here is so inconsistent.
Vlad n U 2 is offline  
Old 01-30-2018, 12:50 AM   #999
Blue Crack Addict
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 18,451
Local Time: 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad n U 2 View Post
I'm all for a healthy debate but you see stuff like that and wonder why it's even worth bothering. Hence my activity here is so inconsistent.


Return and develop a new vlad order.
LuckyNumber7 is online now  
Old 01-30-2018, 07:20 AM   #1000
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: DC
Posts: 68,170
Local Time: 11:13 PM
To be fair, the "you're wrong about everything" debate tactic doesn't exactly lend itself to a healthy discussion
__________________

Headache in a Suitcase is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com
×