US 2008 Presidential Campaign/Debate Discussion Thread - Part Catorce! - Page 20

anitram · 02-05-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by yolland
Apparently Hillary and McCain have something in common when it comes to the irrational levels of loathing some elements in their own party have for them.

Bill Maher was on Larry King last night and he talked about this a bit (with respect to Hillary), saying that people who are so adamantly anti-Hillary are really reflecting something ugly about themselves moreso than making a statement about her.

deep · 02-05-2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anitram

Bill Maher was on Larry King last night and he talked about this a bit (with respect to Hillary), saying that people who are so adamantly anti-Hillary are really reflecting something ugly about themselves moreso than making a statement about her.

could hold true for Rush Limbaugh and the other McCain haters, too.

anitram · 02-05-2008, 03:58 PM

The GOP has their own Hillary now?

BVS · 02-05-2008, 04:00 PM

This is entertaining...

Lila64 · 02-05-2008, 04:20 PM

I haven't followed the whole thread. Just saw this and thought I'd do a drive by & post...

No More 'Pink Houses' For McCain
By Brandon Barker
Feb 5th 2008 12:20PM

Whether he was lobbying for a John Mellencamp endorsement for his presidential bid or simply looking for a rousing, all-American song to rally his supporters, we will never know. Because, according to Rolling Stone, the popular heartland rocker has quietly asked Republican Sen. John McCain to stop playing "Our Country," "Pink Houses" or any other Mellencamp tune at his political events.

Mellencamp, a balladeer of middle class sufferance, is a Democrat and, until recently, a supporter of John Edwards' 2008 presidential campaign. In fact, Mellencamp even interrupted a performance of his song "Small Town" at an Iowa concert so that the former North Carolina Senator could let it be known to the crowd that he too came from a small town. The crowd had a mixed response, as you can imagine.

But this leaves McCain in a real bind. With his campaign gathering support and delegates, now comes the time for his staff to nail down a campaign song. And, during this stormy political season, Toby Keith is just not going to cut it.

Though a Republican, McCain is still a folksy man-of-the-people, a war hero, a gritty underdog who all-out demands a good American-penned tune. But with patriotic artists like Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi and John Mellencamp off-limits to conservatives, where does he turn?

http://news.aol.com/political-machin...00010000000001

U2isthebest · 02-05-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lila64
I haven't followed the whole thread. Just saw this and thought I'd do a drive by & post...

No More 'Pink Houses' For McCain
By Brandon Barker
Feb 5th 2008 12:20PM

Whether he was lobbying for a John Mellencamp endorsement for his presidential bid or simply looking for a rousing, all-American song to rally his supporters, we will never know. Because, according to Rolling Stone, the popular heartland rocker has quietly asked Republican Sen. John McCain to stop playing "Our Country," "Pink Houses" or any other Mellencamp tune at his political events.

Mellencamp, a balladeer of middle class sufferance, is a Democrat and, until recently, a supporter of John Edwards' 2008 presidential campaign. In fact, Mellencamp even interrupted a performance of his song "Small Town" at an Iowa concert so that the former North Carolina Senator could let it be known to the crowd that he too came from a small town. The crowd had a mixed response, as you can imagine.

But this leaves McCain in a real bind. With his campaign gathering support and delegates, now comes the time for his staff to nail down a campaign song. And, during this stormy political season, Toby Keith is just not going to cut it.

Though a Republican, McCain is still a folksy man-of-the-people, a war hero, a gritty underdog who all-out demands a good American-penned tune. But with patriotic artists like Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi and John Mellencamp off-limits to conservatives, where does he turn?

http://news.aol.com/political-machin...00010000000001

Bono loves everybody. McCain can pick a U2 song. Sure Edge, Adam, and Larry might be pissed, but they'll get over it.

**yolland** · 02-05-2008, 04:26 PM

Haha, Mellencamp did the same thing to Reagan back in '84 when Reagan was also trying to use "Pink Houses" in his campaign. I always wondered if Reagan had actually bothered to listen to the lyrics...

Irvine511 · 02-05-2008, 04:35 PM

Reagan thought that "born in the USA" was a patriotic song.

U2isthebest · 02-05-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511
Reagan thought that "born in the USA" was a patriotic song.

That's always made me laugh. Do people not pay attention to lyrics? I think Reagan was just trying to be cool with the kids.

anitram · 02-05-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511
Reagan thought that "born in the USA" was a patriotic song.

It might be the most patriotic song of all, actually.

**yolland** · 02-05-2008, 04:42 PM

lmao, that too...forgot about that one.

Ah, now you've got me all sentimental for the bile-flavor-Kool-Aid shock of the first presidential election I was old enough to follow...

phillyfan26 · 02-05-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511
Reagan thought that "born in the USA" was a patriotic song.

I remember when I was 10 reading that in a Springsteen biography (he was my favorite musician then and still is my number two) and thinking Reagan was an idiot.

When I was 10.

anitram · 02-05-2008, 04:48 PM

Did any of you watch Michael Moore's Canadian Bacon? There is a great scene where John Candy is driving up to Canada (the movie is basically a story of an American president who decides to start a war against Canada to improve his ratings), and in the pick up he's singing Born in the USA, then gets past the chorus, pauses, and keeps singing Boooooorn in the USA!! on endless repeat.

U2democrat · 02-05-2008, 05:00 PM

That movie is hysterical.

Irvine511 · 02-05-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by anitram

It might be the most patriotic song of all, actually.

sure, if one understands complexity and nuance.

but these are republicans we're talking about.

i thought that song was patriotic when i was 7. by the age of 8, i knew better.

Irvine511 · 02-05-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by anitram
(the movie is basically a story of an American president who decides to start a war against Canada to improve his ratings)

martha · 02-05-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by U2isthebest
Mitt's got a positively dreamy smile.

It's all about the hair.

U2isthebest · 02-05-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by martha

It's all about the hair.

That goes without saying, and with that winning personality... be still my heart.

martha · 02-05-2008, 05:34 PM

Damn. Too bad I already voted.

And wouldn't register Republican if you paid me one million shiny silver dollars.

But other than that, yeah go Mitt!!

U2isthebest · 02-05-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by martha
Damn. Too bad I already voted.

And wouldn't register Republican if you paid me one million shiny silver dollars.

But other than that, yeah go Mitt!!

If only I didn't live in Michigan and actually would've had my candidate on the ballot.

02-05-2008, 04:26 PM	#387
yolland Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,471 Local Time: 06:58 PM	Haha, Mellencamp did the same thing to Reagan back in '84 when Reagan was also trying to use "Pink Houses" in his campaign. I always wondered if Reagan had actually bothered to listen to the lyrics... __________________ yolland [at] interference.com μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης

02-05-2008, 04:42 PM	#391
yolland Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,471 Local Time: 06:58 PM	lmao, that too...forgot about that one. Ah, now you've got me all sentimental for the bile-flavor-Kool-Aid shock of the first presidential election I was old enough to follow... __________________ yolland [at] interference.com μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης

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Lila64 Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ♥Set List Lane♥ Posts: 52,894 Local Time: 10:58 AM	I haven't followed the whole thread. Just saw this and thought I'd do a drive by & post... No More 'Pink Houses' For McCain By Brandon Barker Feb 5th 2008 12:20PM Whether he was lobbying for a John Mellencamp endorsement for his presidential bid or simply looking for a rousing, all-American song to rally his supporters, we will never know. Because, according to Rolling Stone, the popular heartland rocker has quietly asked Republican Sen. John McCain to stop playing "Our Country," "Pink Houses" or any other Mellencamp tune at his political events. Mellencamp, a balladeer of middle class sufferance, is a Democrat and, until recently, a supporter of John Edwards' 2008 presidential campaign. In fact, Mellencamp even interrupted a performance of his song "Small Town" at an Iowa concert so that the former North Carolina Senator could let it be known to the crowd that he too came from a small town. The crowd had a mixed response, as you can imagine. But this leaves McCain in a real bind. With his campaign gathering support and delegates, now comes the time for his staff to nail down a campaign song. And, during this stormy political season, Toby Keith is just not going to cut it. Though a Republican, McCain is still a folksy man-of-the-people, a war hero, a gritty underdog who all-out demands a good American-penned tune. But with patriotic artists like Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi and John Mellencamp off-limits to conservatives, where does he turn? http://news.aol.com/political-machin...00010000000001

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