Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
2861U2 said:How long is Obama going to talk? It's going on 40 minutes.
methinks you're going to have to get used to lots and lots of speeches by Obama ... until 2016.
2861U2 said:How long is Obama going to talk? It's going on 40 minutes.
MaxFisher said:
2861U2 said:
Perfect example of the typical Obama supporter.
2861U2 said:
Perfect example of the typical Obama supporter.
Irvine511 said:
you must know so many.
2861U2 said:Perfect example of the typical Obama supporter.
phillyfan26 said:
These statements make you lose credibility.
Irvine511 said:you must know so many.
phillyfan26 said:
These statements make you lose credibility.
deep said:
can you list his legislative accomplishments while in the U S Senate?
deep said:
can you list his legislative accomplishments while in the U S Senate?
2861U2 said:How? Is it not true?
I hear people everyday say they are supporting Obama, and they can't explain why. I remember watching an Obama supporter on Fox News in one of Frank Luntz's focus groups, and he was asked what Obama has accomplished, and he said "He's a good speaker." You could hear Sean Hannity sighing in the background, as was I.
Irvine511 said:
*The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law)
*The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law)
*The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, (passed by the Senate)
*The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law)
*The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee)
and if you look at his record in the IL state senate, he sponsored more than 780 bills, of which 280 were signed into law.
and he was always against Iraq.
i also don't think that having prolific legislation is necessarily an indicator of being a worthy presidential candidate. just look at Ted Kennedy.
deep said:
People are caught up in all this Obama mania
and most likely will end up with a nominee
that the old broken down war horse McCain, can best in an electoral college contest.
deep said:
that little laundry list amounts to not much of anything
Irvine511 said:
and let's keep in mind -- Obama has nearly defeated the Clinton machine. that's something the Republicans have never been able to do.
Irvine511 said:
Obama has nearly defeated the Clinton machine
MrsSpringsteen said:
How much of it is that vs the Clinton machine defeating itself? Bill Clinton defeating her campaign? Maybe even intentionally. What politician with that experience and intelligence and political skill says things that are that stupid? Either that or he went so out of control due to some guilt complex or something. Senator Obama of course was the perfect opponent for their foibles and stupidity.
deep said:
I am aware of the popular votes, too
it would be interesting if we only looked at the Blue States and the BATTLE GROUND states.
if Obama gets 80 per cent of the votes in South Carolina, Utah and all the small states that will surely vote GOP
that can carry him to the nomination
bot all that support in Democratic primaries in Red states means nothing in November
Irvine511 said:
a 16 point spread in Wisconsin should tell you something. as should his ability to get the White Men who wouldn't need much convincing to go for McCain.
they live in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and *especially* the inter-mountain West. Obama can reach these people. these people don't want to be touched by Hillary.
Dreadsox said:It tells me he can win a Democratic Primary. General elections are different.
Not many people want to be touched by Hillary.
MrsSpringsteen said:politico.com
"I'll do whatever he says to do," actress Halle Berry said to the Philadelphia Daily News. "I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."
BonoVoxSupastar said:
I agree and unfortunately he's slowly been chipping away at himself that he doesn't have much more to lose.