Ohio predictions - Page 11

phillyfan26 · 03-04-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Strongbow

The abortion issue is not an issue for the general election in Pennsylvania at all. But, the fact that Democrats in the state would support a pro-life candidate for Governor of their party shows you that Democrats in Pennsylvania tend to be much more conservative than your average Democrat in most other states.

The polls with McCain as the Republican nominee show things moving in the REP direction at the moment. McCain is a Republican that many Pennsylvania Democrats could vote for.

On the economy, Pennsylvania overall is doing well relative to the rest of the country and especially when compared with Ohio, Missouri and Michigan.

Are you talking about Casey again? He hasn't been governor in over a decade.

Strongbow · 03-04-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26

Are you talking about Casey again? He hasn't been governor in over a decade.

Doesn't matter. It simply shows how Democrats in Pennsylvania on average are more consevative than Democrats to the north and further west.

Dreadsox · 03-04-2008, 10:26 PM

I am almost convinced that Obama would be gone from this race had Florida and Michigan behaved themselves.

namkcuR · 03-04-2008, 10:31 PM

"Yes We Will"?

"Yes We Can" rip, anyone?

Couldn't she have been a little less obvious?

phillyfan26 · 03-04-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Strongbow

Doesn't matter. It simply shows how Democrats in Pennsylvania on average are more consevative than Democrats to the north and further west.

It's 2008.

Irvine511 · 03-04-2008, 10:39 PM

way to go, Democrats.

snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, ensuring that there's going to be weeks and weeks of nasty Clintons, all while McCain bides his time and has the Dems do the dirty work for them. and what's terrible, is that the math remains in Obama's favor. it will still be very hard for her to win. so what do they do? destroy the party.

U2democrat · 03-04-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511
way to go, Democrats.

snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, ensuring that there's going to be weeks and weeks of nasty Clintons, all while McCain bides his time and has the Dems do the dirty work for them. and what's terrible, is that the math remains in Obama's favor. it will still be very hard for her to win. so what do they do? destroy the party.

As per usual, I'm with you 100%. While many may want this primary to continue to "test" these candidates, it will only continue the ugly tactics used by the clintons, which will turn people off and away, as the Republicans shore up their support.

Dreadsox · 03-04-2008, 10:53 PM

Say it with me now....

President McCain

Irvine511 · 03-04-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dreadsox
Say it with me now....

President McCain

considering he was the only human being running on the GOP side, if it has to be anyone, let it be him.

i still wouldn't bet on it, though.

he's got some major, major problems. now's his grace period. let's wait and see.

namkcuR · 03-04-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dreadsox
President McCain

Strongbow · 03-04-2008, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phillyfan26

It's 2008.

Its 2008, but Democrats in Pennsylvania are still conservative relative to their fellow Democrats in other Blue states. As Chris Matthews says, Pennsylvania Democrats are John Wayne Democrats, not Jane Fonda Democrats.

The majority of Democrats who vote in Pennsylvania in November 2008 will be Democrats who were old enough to vote for Casey.

Strongbow · 03-04-2008, 11:03 PM

McCain is still the underdog, but he is not going to be crushed as some here predicted. Current polling shows that this is going to be a very competitive race in a year in which the Republicans were always going to be the underdog since they have held the White House for the past two terms. Since the end of World War II, there has only been one time when either party won the White House 3 times in a row, Reagan's 2 plus Bush Sr. 1.

BonosSaint · 03-04-2008, 11:05 PM

PA hasn't voted Republican for the Presidential since 1988, conservative state though it is. Maybe it will this year (although I doubt it) but that hasn't been the trend. But yeah, we're still a swing state.

LemonMelon · 03-04-2008, 11:31 PM

No matter which way the popular vote goes, there wasn't a big enough swing tonight to really push Hillary near Obama, and certainly not to the forefront. At the very best, tonight could be something for her to build momentum off of, and she needs all the momentum she can get.

But there's still a ways to go yet in Texas.

deep · 03-04-2008, 11:46 PM

Hillary wins 3 tonight

the BIG TWO

Ohio decisively and Texas

plus Rhode Island

LemonMelon · 03-04-2008, 11:51 PM

"Win" sounds nice for her, but what about the delegates? Those are a bit important too...

deep · 03-05-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by LemonMelon
"Win" sounds nice for her, but what about the delegates? Those are a bit important too...

I think Obama will get more delegates in Texas, even if he gets less votes. And that is a crap way to do things.

Dreadsox · 03-05-2008, 12:08 AM

President McCain is on the line.

Canadiens1131 · 03-05-2008, 12:11 AM

Awwwww man.

EDIT: This is JUST LIKE THE WEST WING!!!

Dusty Bottoms · 03-05-2008, 12:12 AM

Good to see the fear mongering tactic still works

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03-04-2008, 10:26 PM	#203
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 05:13 AM	I am almost convinced that Obama would be gone from this race had Florida and Michigan behaved themselves.

03-04-2008, 10:31 PM	#204
namkcuR ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 10,767 Local Time: 06:13 AM	"Yes We Will"? "Yes We Can" rip, anyone? Couldn't she have been a little less obvious?

03-04-2008, 10:39 PM	#206
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the West Coast Posts: 34,372 Local Time: 06:13 AM	way to go, Democrats. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, ensuring that there's going to be weeks and weeks of nasty Clintons, all while McCain bides his time and has the Dems do the dirty work for them. and what's terrible, is that the math remains in Obama's favor. it will still be very hard for her to win. so what do they do? destroy the party.

03-04-2008, 10:53 PM	#208
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 05:13 AM	Say it with me now.... President McCain

03-04-2008, 11:03 PM	#212
Strongbow Refugee Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,943 Local Time: 10:13 AM	McCain is still the underdog, but he is not going to be crushed as some here predicted. Current polling shows that this is going to be a very competitive race in a year in which the Republicans were always going to be the underdog since they have held the White House for the past two terms. Since the end of World War II, there has only been one time when either party won the White House 3 times in a row, Reagan's 2 plus Bush Sr. 1.

03-04-2008, 11:05 PM	#213
BonosSaint Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,566 Local Time: 06:13 AM	PA hasn't voted Republican for the Presidential since 1988, conservative state though it is. Maybe it will this year (although I doubt it) but that hasn't been the trend. But yeah, we're still a swing state.

03-04-2008, 11:31 PM	#214
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,798 Local Time: 03:13 AM	No matter which way the popular vote goes, there wasn't a big enough swing tonight to really push Hillary near Obama, and certainly not to the forefront. At the very best, tonight could be something for her to build momentum off of, and she needs all the momentum she can get. But there's still a ways to go yet in Texas.

03-04-2008, 11:46 PM	#215
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,603 Local Time: 02:13 AM	Hillary wins 3 tonight the BIG TWO Ohio decisively and Texas plus Rhode Island

03-04-2008, 11:51 PM	#216
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,798 Local Time: 03:13 AM	"Win" sounds nice for her, but what about the delegates? Those are a bit important too...

03-05-2008, 12:08 AM	#218
Dreadsox ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,885 Local Time: 05:13 AM	President McCain is on the line.

03-05-2008, 12:11 AM	#219
Canadiens1131 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 10,363 Local Time: 06:13 AM	Awwwww man. EDIT: This is JUST LIKE THE WEST WING!!!