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Old 04-03-2008, 06:45 PM   #21
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Add a little Celtic Sea Salt. It will help you to absorb the water instead of having it go in one end and out the other, and is so nutritious. It's changed my life I swear! http://www.livingfoodfarm.com/info/c...beconned.shtml

I, too, am a big believer in massive quantities of vitamin C as well. I've had some unbelievable healing experiences with it, like with burns and stuff. Vitamin C IVs
Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.
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I never get colds either though, and very seldom flus (despite having three school-age children) and I've never taken any sort of vitamin supplement. That's really all just anecdotal.
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I never get colds either though, and very seldom flus (despite having three school-age children) and I've never taken any sort of vitamin supplement. That's really all just anecdotal.
Exactly. One person can't take it, and make the claim that it works when there are so many other variables that could influence the outcome. I just know that for me personally, I now get way fewer than I did before I started taking it, and again, the whole lessening of allergy symptoms.
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Yes, I am med student, which is why I'm somewhat skeptical of the megadoses. No money in prescribing vitamins.

Truthfully though, I believe that some sort of supplementation during stressful time periods can be beneficial, the body's needs are clearly different, but during good health, I tend to back away that the megadoses are useful. Whether the body can somehow adapt and handle higher levels - I don't know the answer to that.

It's sort of ironic that this thread came up today since I have an exam tomorrow that focuses on the kidneys. Let me tell you, that they are the most complex organs I've encountered and just a general pain in the ass to learn.
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Yes, I am med student, which is why I'm somewhat skeptical of the megadoses. No money in prescribing vitamins.

Truthfully though, I believe that some sort of supplementation during stressful time periods can be beneficial, the body's needs are clearly different, but during good health, I tend to back away that the megadoses are useful. Whether the body can somehow adapt and handle higher levels - I don't know the answer to that.

It's sort of ironic that this thread came up today since I have an exam tomorrow that focuses on the kidneys. Let me tell you, that they are the most complex organs I've encountered and just a general pain in the ass to learn.
I'm sure you're way too busy now (not too busy to reply to this thread, obviously ), but when you have time, you should check out the article I posted. I'd be interested in hearing your opinion. For what it's worth, Pauling also talks about vitamin C's affect on the kidneys.
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In a world where only 0.4 % of the water is drinkable those are great news
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I'm sure you're way too busy now (not too busy to reply to this thread, obviously ), but when you have time, you should check out the article I posted. I'd be interested in hearing your opinion. For what it's worth, Pauling also talks about vitamin C's affect on the kidneys.
I'll try to get around to reading when I get some downtime. My attention span for studying is really fading though, literally for the past week I've gotten up studied with periodic short breaks, and then gone to bed. So I'm feeling a little burnt out, just get to 4pm tomorrow.
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I always thought the water thing was BS. First of all, we are all unique individuals with unique needs and it simply isn't true that we all have the same minimum threshold. That in itself is just completely counterintuitive.
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I'm not going to dispute what you say in your case. Studies have shown that high vitamin c can reduce the duration of a cold, but a lot of other purported claims haven't been backed up yet.

Taking high doses of vitamins isn't something that should be done lightly either. They can have a very negative impact on your body and cause some strange interactions with any medications you're taking. One study comes to mind that looked at vitamin A superdoses and it's impact on a certain type of cancer preventation and to everyone's surprise the vitamin a group had a higher incidence of the cancer. Again, I don't mean to tell you or anyone what to do, but for me megadoses of vitamins are a lot of hype and not a lot of action.
Too much of a good thing can be bad. In other cases, more is better. You can not have a vitamin deficiency and then get assaulted with more than a healthy body can handle and in those times higher dosages for short periods have proved very beneficial to me. But I have found many other things that knock out a cold even better, so it's not like I'm a Vitamin C freak but I do supplement. Personally I didn't begin to experience truly great health until I started getting rid of the heavy metals and toxins in my body. That's when the earth moved, so to speak.

But there are so many things that affect health from environment to food to genes, and so many things that work for different people but not others. I know a woman in her 60s who has never taken a vitamin in her life and never gets sick. But I can see that she's not healthy, she's grossly overweight, and I personally think either she has amazing genes, or she's a disaster waiting to happen, that when she gets sick it could be really bad. But who knows.
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Honestly the healthiest I've ever been is when I got my body fat down to 19-20, worked out for an hour or two 7 days a week, including cycling 100 miles per week and doing a LOT of resistance training. I ate well then, but didn't bother with supplements or vitamins or flushing myself with water or flushing out toxins or anything of the sort. Still had my delicious aspartame-laced diet drinks on a daily basis, my cholesterol levels were on par with vegetarians (I do eat fish probably 3-4 days a week, though).

So I think different things work for different people. I haven't been sick once this year and that's with my roommate having bronchitis and going home at Easter with my Dad infecting everyone with strep throat.
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Honestly the healthiest I've ever been is when I got my body fat down to 19-20, worked out for an hour or two 7 days a week, including cycling 100 miles per week and doing a LOT of resistance training. I ate well then, but didn't bother with supplements or vitamins or flushing myself with water or flushing out toxins or anything of the sort. Still had my delicious aspartame-laced diet drinks on a daily basis, my cholesterol levels were on par with vegetarians (I do eat fish probably 3-4 days a week, though).

So I think different things work for different people. I haven't been sick once this year and that's with my roommate having bronchitis and going home at Easter with my Dad infecting everyone with strep throat.
Oh, I work out all the time--pilates, weight training, yoga, aerobics, and eat extremely well. But I'm a lot older than you. I never had a health problem of any kind beyond a cold or flu until I hit the 4th decade. I just have to work harder at my health now. There is definitely a cumulative effect. I developed seasonal allergies out of the blue and was determined that this was not going to be my new life. When I detoxed the heavy metals, it completely disappeared. I grew up on a farm exposed to a lot of chemicals, pesticides, fertilizers, and now my mother tells me asbestos lived in the attic. Sometimes that kind of stuff shows up later in life.
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The healthiest I've been was when I was only drinking 20 beers a week.
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Must say though, I feel much better since I switched to more expensive beers. I generally find that with the cheaper, more proletarian type of beer, I don't get the health benefits.
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I don't drink beer, it takes way too long to get drunk that way.

Plus my stomach is little. I never understood where men can store all that liquid!
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TBH, I'm pretty bored of beer at this point. Trying to switch to red wine, though seemingly, contrary to popular opinion, red wine is also quite fattening.
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