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Old 02-05-2008, 09:26 PM   #201
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He struck me as some extremist who should be completely on the fringe. I cannot believe this guy is a state governor and a serious contender for presidential candidacy nomination. That's genuinely scary.

The US can be a scary place sometimes.
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SBS is currently showing Huckabee making some speech. Holy shit, he's just talking a complete load of gibberish. How the fuck is this guy a mainstream politician in the US?
I still can't quite fathom how he's a contending, serious candidate and not, at the absolute best, being treated as some fringe freak, like Ron Paul is.

It's kind of amazing that SBS is broadcasting a few hours of this in Australia as well. I think people are more than a little excited about the end of the Bush years.
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Huckabee contends for one reason and one reason only:

He represents a rather large group of people.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:30 PM   #204
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Current tally:

Clinton--Oklahoma, Tennessee*, Arkansas, New York*, New Jersey*, Massachusetts*
Obama--Illinois*, Georgia*, Delaware, Alabama, North Dakota, Connecticut, Kansas

McCain--Delaware, New Jersey**, Connecticut, Illinois**, New York**, Oklahoma
Romney--Massachusetts, Utah**
Huckabee--West Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama


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(** = winner-take-all state with rather large delegate count, OR significant-looking victory margin in non-winner-take-all state with lots of delegates)
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You can add Alabama for Huckabee.
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The US can be a scary place sometimes.
Just sometimes?

I am seriously contemplating moving out of this country if the executive branch of our government finds itself with another Republican. I honestly do not think I can deal with 4 more of years of this. The last 8 have been a nightmare as far as I'm concerned. When I think about the blatant beating the Constitution has taken, not to mention telling the International Community that they can basically go fuck themselves, it's almost too much for me to mentally cope with. Frustrating is not the word for it.

Moving out of the country might not be the best answer, but, I don't know what more I can do outside of vote, try to encourage others to vote, then grin and bear it if the results are not to my liking.

Sorry for the rant, I'll slink back to the Lemonade Stand where I belong.
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Just sometimes?

I am seriously contemplating moving out of this country if the executive branch of our government finds itself with another Republican. I honestly do not think I can deal with 4 more of years of this. The last 8 have been a nightmare as far as I'm concerned. When I think about the blatant beating the Constitution has taken, not to mention telling the International Community that they can basically go fuck themselves, it's almost too much for me to mentally cope with. Frustrating is not the word for it.

Moving out of the country might not be the best answer, but, I don't know what more I can do outside of vote, try to encourage others to vote, then grin and bear it if the results are not to my liking.

Sorry for the rant, I'll slink back to the Lemonade Stand where I belong.
Dude, this place is all about rants.
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Huckabee contends for one reason and one reason only:

He represents a rather large group of people.
Like I said, the US is a scary place sometimes.
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Huckabee contends for one reason and one reason only:

He represents a rather large group of people.
As a social democrat and an agnostic, thank God I do not live in the US. It's bad enough being in Australia where there's enough of a fringe minority to keep Family First on its feet.
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As a social democrat and an agnostic, thank God I do not live in the US.
You'd be fucked.
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Just sometimes?

I am seriously contemplating moving out of this country if the executive branch of our government finds itself with another Republican. I honestly do not think I can deal with 4 more of years of this. The last 8 have been a nightmare as far as I'm concerned. When I think about the blatant beating the Constitution has taken, not to mention telling the International Community that they can basically go fuck themselves, it's almost too much for me to mentally cope with. Frustrating is not the word for it.

Moving out of the country might not be the best answer, but, I don't know what more I can do outside of vote, try to encourage others to vote, then grin and bear it if the results are not to my liking.

Sorry for the rant, I'll slink back to the Lemonade Stand where I belong.
I completely understand where you are coming from. Unfortunately, leaving the country is not an option for me. We have some friends who I've spoke about before, that moved to Australia. They follow U.S. politics from afar now, but I'm sure politics has a bit of influence on them leaving. And then my accountant and his family moved to New Zealand last year and is now living it up.

I'll slink back to home base and find you.
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i'm giggling more now.

i think we should call him Captain Special Underpants.
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Current tally:

Clinton--Oklahoma, Tennessee*, Arkansas, New York*, New Jersey*, Massachusetts*
Obama--Illinois*, Georgia*, Delaware, Alabama, North Dakota, Connecticut, Kansas


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NJ doesn't fall in that category. Hillary's got a single-digit lead.
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Just watching Mitt Romney now. This guy's nationalistic "the US is the greatest" boasting is absolutely hysterical to an outsider. I have to wonder if he's ever been anywhere else. It sounds like he hasn't got a fucking clue.
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As a social democrat and an agnostic, thank God I do not live in the US. It's bad enough being in Australia where there's enough of a fringe minority to keep Family First on its feet.
That's my problem exactly.

Am agnostic, with a secular Jewish background, as well as the former.

This just often does not feel like the right country for me. I think living in NYC/LA all my life helped, but I'm in the Midwest now, and, I wonder, a lot, if maybe I need to admit that it's time for me to live somewhere that is more representative of how I think when it comes to government and religion, or, government devoid of religious overtones.
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Just sometimes?

I am seriously contemplating moving out of this country if the executive branch of our government finds itself with another Republican. I honestly do not think I can deal with 4 more of years of this.
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Just watching Mitt Romney now. This guy's nationalistic "the US is the greatest" boasting is absolutely hysterical to an outsider. I have to wonder if he's ever been anywhere else. It sounds like he hasn't got a fucking clue.


this is considered "red meat" stuff for the Republican base. they love all this national greatness myth making.
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