2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part VI - Page 34

Mack_Again · 03-15-2016, 11:27 PM

oh well this democratic election is more shitshow than I thought.

LuckyNumber7 · 03-15-2016, 11:35 PM

By shit show you mean? Clinton sort of steamrolled Sanders today.

I don't think it was done before today, but I definitely think it's done now.

deep · 03-15-2016, 11:46 PM

Bernie never had even had half a shot
but I do like him.

Amazing, that video from 1988, close your eyes, he sounds the same and is spot on the same message as he is today.

nbelcik · 03-15-2016, 11:52 PM

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Marco went off script and it was the best I've ever heard him.

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Let's dispel once and for all this fiction that Marco Rubio doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

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LuckyNumber7 · 03-15-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by deep

Bernie never had even had half a shot
but I do like him.

Amazing, that video from 1988, close your eyes, he sounds the same and is spot on the same message as he is today.

I still don't get the logic of why anyone cares to watch any of the races if they have this logic.

If Bernie never had a chance, no republican not named Donald Trump ever had a chance. He had much more of a chance than anyone else, by virtue of the fact that he garners just as much support as the republican leader albeit in a two person race.

deep · 03-16-2016, 12:07 AM

Trump won MO all counties are in, he wins by about 1700 out of 936,000 votes.
They still have not called it.

Trump wins 4 out of 5
And gave Kasich a scare in Ohio.

deep · 03-16-2016, 12:15 AM

This is interesting, did you know that John Kasich's father was a mailman

Mack_Again · 03-16-2016, 12:47 AM

why don't you guys want this guy as the president of the US?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL8BpbWP7_8

Axver · 03-16-2016, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by deep

And gave Kasich a scare in Ohio.

Getting close to half the vote in a four-person race and leading the nearest rival by over 10% is a "scare" now?

That's a safe win.

Mack_Again · 03-16-2016, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by deep

This is interesting, did you know that John Kasich's father was a mailman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG12m2YXqbw

LuckyNumber7 · 03-16-2016, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Axver

Getting close to half the vote in a four-person race and leading the nearest rival by over 10% is a "scare" now?

That's a safe win.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt here.. the polls throughout March started with Trump ahead, and shifted to a small margin in favor of Kasich. He won by a lot more than the polls suggested.

**Headache in a Suitcase** · 03-16-2016, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BVS

Facts? They don't need facts, they make fun of facts. Cruz is just trying to steal some of Trump's base. He could say, "I will fire all Mexicans from their jobs until you are employed" and steal this election.

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Trump has literally developed his platform off the "dey tuk are jerbs" episode of South Park and is dominating the GOP with it.

Hewson · 03-16-2016, 07:13 AM

Headline on front page of today's Boston Herald;

"Goodbye Rubio Tuesday"

Boston Herald e-Edition

I chuckled.

digitize · 03-16-2016, 07:22 AM

At this point, I'm ready for Trump to get the GOP nomination. Rubio is out, and Kasich hasn't a chance of winning a majority of pledged delegates. That leaves Cruz, who scares me as least as much as Trump. And I think that Clinton should beat Trump relatively easily in the general election, whereas Cruz might be a more formidable opponent, as he's not so openly crazy. We can hope for a contested convention, but what would that really do? Would the party really install Kasich or some outsider over Cruz or Trump? Seems unlikely.

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LuckyNumber7 · 03-16-2016, 07:24 AM

The beauty of a contested convention is that there is no right answer. They pick Trump and they're a joke. They defy the constituency and they're a joke.

digitize · 03-16-2016, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

The beauty of a contested convention is that there is no right answer. They pick Trump and they're a joke. They defy the constituency and they're a joke.

I see a serious risk of a contested convention nominating Cruz, who is at least as scary with Trump but perhaps more electable.

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Hewson · 03-16-2016, 08:13 AM

I honestly think Trump is more electable than Cruz. I think there's a decent swath of unaffiliated folks who might vote for Trump in a general election, I think the percentage of those folks who vote for Cruz is significantly lower.

BVS · 03-16-2016, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by digitize

I see a serious risk of a contested convention nominating Cruz, who is at least as scary with Trump but perhaps more electable.

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You think Cruz is more electable? Outside of Cruz and the one family member that still likes him, I hadn't heard that.

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LuckyNumber7 · 03-16-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by digitize

I see a serious risk of a contested convention nominating Cruz, who is at least as scary with Trump but perhaps more electable.

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Why? That's a way to make literally zero people happy. To the GOP, Cruz is just as much of a maniac. There's already been chatter that the party elites actually favor Trump to Cruz due to his legitimate lack of political ties coupled with his popular support. They would have to take a lot of responsibility for a Cruz gaffe. They don't have to take any responsibility if the convention chooses Trump. They just blame the constituency.

digitize · 03-16-2016, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BVS

You think Cruz is more electable? Outside of Cruz and the one family member that still likes him, I hadn't heard that.

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I hate to put too much stock into hypothetical matchup polls, but I'll link to them in this case, to at least show that I'm not completely insane. Trust them or don't, but I think they at least show that a position of Cruz being more electable than Trump is plausible.

Clinton vs. Trump: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

Clinton vs. Cruz: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-4034.html

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03-15-2016, 11:27 PM	#661
Mack_Again Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: definitely Osaka Posts: 7,124 Local Time: 06:20 AM	oh well this democratic election is more shitshow than I thought. __________________

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LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,515 Local Time: 06:20 AM	By shit show you mean? Clinton sort of steamrolled Sanders today. I don't think it was done before today, but I definitely think it's done now. __________________

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03-15-2016, 11:46 PM	#663
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 04:20 AM	Bernie never had even had half a shot but I do like him. Amazing, that video from 1988, close your eyes, he sounds the same and is spot on the same message as he is today.

03-16-2016, 12:07 AM	#666
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 04:20 AM	Trump won MO all counties are in, he wins by about 1700 out of 936,000 votes. They still have not called it. Trump wins 4 out of 5 And gave Kasich a scare in Ohio.

03-16-2016, 12:15 AM	#667
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 04:20 AM	This is interesting, did you know that John Kasich's father was a mailman

03-16-2016, 07:13 AM	#673
Hewson Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Your own private Idaho Posts: 34,032 Local Time: 07:20 AM	Headline on front page of today's Boston Herald; "Goodbye Rubio Tuesday" Boston Herald e-Edition I chuckled.

03-16-2016, 07:22 AM	#674
digitize ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New York / Dallas / Austin Posts: 14,117 Local Time: 05:20 AM	At this point, I'm ready for Trump to get the GOP nomination. Rubio is out, and Kasich hasn't a chance of winning a majority of pledged delegates. That leaves Cruz, who scares me as least as much as Trump. And I think that Clinton should beat Trump relatively easily in the general election, whereas Cruz might be a more formidable opponent, as he's not so openly crazy. We can hope for a contested convention, but what would that really do? Would the party really install Kasich or some outsider over Cruz or Trump? Seems unlikely. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

03-16-2016, 07:24 AM	#675
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 19,515 Local Time: 06:20 AM	The beauty of a contested convention is that there is no right answer. They pick Trump and they're a joke. They defy the constituency and they're a joke.

03-16-2016, 08:13 AM	#677
Hewson Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Your own private Idaho Posts: 34,032 Local Time: 07:20 AM	I honestly think Trump is more electable than Cruz. I think there's a decent swath of unaffiliated folks who might vote for Trump in a general election, I think the percentage of those folks who vote for Cruz is significantly lower.