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Old 01-15-2003, 10:47 AM   #41
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Howie B was spotted with the boys at the recent Gangs of New York premiere...

now why would he be hanging out with them... in Dublin.... ?

Pop 2 anyone??
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Only if they take the time to "finish" it.
One that I'm sure will NOT produce it is Steve Lylliwhite, Larry will NOT permit that
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Howie B did some very interesting work on "Pop," and I'd love to see him again. Of course, that really could lead to the fact that William Orbit really *is* working on the next album, considering both are electronic artists in their own right.

I don't want Eno/Lanois. They bored me to tears with ATYCLB. I doubt either Steve Lillywhite or Flood will have anything to do with the next album. Someone new sounds probable.

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Hmmm.....Lillywhite. That'd be really interesting. I think I would like this!!
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no lillywhite.

it would be kick ass if edge didnt play any guitar on this album, or just laced everything with effects.

pure electronica, that would be so awesome.
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no lillywhite.

it would be kick ass if edge didnt play any guitar on this album, or just laced everything with effects.

pure electronica, that would be so awesome.

BARF!
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no lillywhite.

it would be kick ass if edge didnt play any guitar on this album, or just laced everything with effects.

pure electronica, that would be so awesome.
Sounds like a cross between Pop and ATYCLB.
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Howie B?

Not good.
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haha michael, that was pretty good.
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Glen Ballard...

It seems U2 is aiming for a raw sound with a lot of life-force in it. That's why I think Glen Ballard would be the perfect fit. He made Alanis' Jagged Little Pill and let her sound raw and just herself. That became one of the most commercially successful albums ever, despite being raw with a lot of life force.

Bono said in Larry King that two crap albums and you're out. Obviously Bono's ego and U2's lofty expectations would also equate crap with commercial failure. U2 don't want to be selling so little. So they need help from more modern producers who know what kinds of songs will penetrate the youth sector of today. While I don't know the names, U2 should take a look at the producers of Aerosmith, Avril Lavigne, or the one who was responsible for Bon Jovi's "comeback" in the Crush album.

Lillywhite, Flood, Lanois, Eno, Howie B, Mike Hedges, Iovine --- they are all old dogs. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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Lillywhite, Flood, Lanois, Eno, Howie B, Mike Hedges, Iovine --- they are all old dogs. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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Really? Bono's dog is old, and the four legged creature has recently been spotted (though I don't think he's a Dalmation) driving around Dublin in Bono's car. Driving!! How odd: a dog driving a Mercedes. Please tell me, J, that dogs don't know how to drive, or even know how to learn how to drive. But going by your logic - if the dog couldn't learn how to drive because he is old - he must have known inately how to drive! Don't you now tell me, J, that this dog did not know how to inately drive. For if he (for the purpose of this argument, I'll assume he's male) was indeed taught such a trick, your whole argument goes completely out the window. Let's see you refute that! (Guess tricks aren't for just kids after all.)

But seriously, J, if you want a serious argument, I'll give you one: If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, then what is the purpose of hiring a young producer (who knows the tricks) to teach U2 what he knows (if U2 themselves are "old"). In this scenerio - according to your line of reasoning - U2 would NOT be able to benefit from it, as they can no longer be taught anything. Is that the conclusion you were aiming for? Obviously it was, but there are plenty of examples of artists in every field - music included - who have created their best work well into their careers. Take Moby for example (and this actually kills two birds with one stone, as he produces as well), or even Leonard Cohen, who wrote his most commercially successful album well into his 50s.

It's all a matter of perspective. Luckily, quite often we can choose that.
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Re: Glen Ballard...

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It seems U2 is aiming for a raw sound with a lot of life-force in it. That's why I think Glen Ballard would be the perfect fit. He made Alanis' Jagged Little Pill and let her sound raw and just herself. That became one of the most commercially successful albums ever, despite being raw with a lot of life force.

Bono said in Larry King that two crap albums and you're out. Obviously Bono's ego and U2's lofty expectations would also equate crap with commercial failure. U2 don't want to be selling so little. So they need help from more modern producers who know what kinds of songs will penetrate the youth sector of today. While I don't know the names, U2 should take a look at the producers of Aerosmith, Avril Lavigne, or the one who was responsible for Bon Jovi's "comeback" in the Crush album.

Lillywhite, Flood, Lanois, Eno, Howie B, Mike Hedges, Iovine --- they are all old dogs. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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i cant begin to point out how many things are wrong with this post.

you list aerosmith, avril lavigne, bon jovi and alanis morisette and their producers as someone u2 should look at??! no seriously dude, are you taking the piss?
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no seriously dude, are you taking the piss?
The dog's piss.
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The dog's piss.
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word.
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on a totally different note, whats happening to the canucks?! they lost again tonite, and they should have lost last game. that would make four in a row.

i have a very bad feeling...
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Yes, I know. The Canucks are in a major slump right now. For whatever reasons. In a way, though, this is a good thing. It better it happen now than at the end of the year. I believe they'll still finish off near the top of the conference (they've got too much talent not to), as they've proven to everyone, most notably themselves, that they can beat any team on any given night. They just have to get back into the groove, which WILL happen - hopefully sooner than later. I think they're just a bit fatigued right now. I think also that they might have been doing a bit too much celebrating lately (but that's just pure speculation). The whole team is a bit off, not as sharp as they usually are. Don't worry, it can only return.
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Interesting how this thread turned into a football thread.
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Interesting how this thread turned into a football thread.
HOCKEY!!! Not football!
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how does verte expect to wipe out aids if she cant even differentiate between hockey and football?!

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