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Bawahhh!! Hilarious Larry & Bono interview!

I feel like Santa w/ all these treats lately!

you can read it here, or on my website (shameless self promotion here)

(it's very long lol - just grab a bigger drink before you read it i guess lol) & sorry about the spacing- too much time for me to fix it!

MAX interview with Bono and Larry Mullen
-Florian Brugger interviews Bono and Larry
lunchtime, Market Diner in Manhattan, New Yor, 1997

MAX: One year ago you claimed that your next record will be a real rock & roll-record. So what happened to this plan?

Bono: It's rock & roll.

MAX: It is?

Bono: It is. I mean what is rock & roll now?

MAX: It's guitar, bass, drum.

Bono: Yeah. But the spirit of rock & roll is always about innovation and energy, fucking with the technology that was around. In the early days that were just this little printed circuits they overloaded and then you got distorted guitar and amplified instruments. It's just a different kind of technology now, but I think it's the same spirit. Our version of rock & roll is reflected in the song MOFO. That's rock & roll.

MAX: Isn't that progressive rock?

Bono: He said the p-word. Huuuh.

Larry: Yes he did.

Bono: He did.

MAX: Never use progressive, or what?

Bono: No, not progressive just when you put it with rock - progressive rock. We've banned that word. There are a few things we've bannedactually on the album. But it's funny if you ban something it's like prohibition it seems to come up again. Things that you keep trying tokeep down sometimes bite back. We banned pr ogressive rock, that is the enemy. And gothic, we banned gothic.

MAX: What is progressive rock?

Bono: Progressive rock is glabby and dizzy. Unfortunate there is a lot of progressive rock on the rise, sadly. Progressive, if you mean innovation if you mean discovering new ground than I like the term. But progressive rock recalls for me the seventies, long solos and evenworse haircuts. But I can't really point a finger because in the eighties I had a haircut that inspired a million second division soccer players. We've cut our hair for this record, so it can't be too progressive rock.

Waiter: Hello.

Bono: Hello, how are you.

Waiter: Fine, what do like?

Bono: Ohh, I like breakfast.

Larry: I'm having a vegetarian omelette with some goat cheese

Waiter: We have no goat cheese, mozzarella?

Larry: O.K. mozzarella and a hot tea.

Bono: Ehhhm, I'm looking for a Mexican thing.

Waiter: Yes, Mexican omelette.

Bono: Yeah.

Waiter: Toast

Bono: Yeah

Waiter: What kind?

Bono: Whole wheat.

Waiter: Anything to drink?

Bono: A glass of water and some coffee.

Waiter: Thanks

Bono: Thanks very much.

MAX: Through what musical stages and directions did you move while recording. Or was their a lot of fighting over the music?

Larry: It wasn't fighting. We always make records in a quite unorthodox way. We start with one idea, it goes through many different
forms and we end up with something completely different. Some of the songs we finished recording them the morning we were due to come to New York to master the record. So everything changes, its a process that we...

Bono: We're trying to talk ourselves out of it. It seems like we need a little bit of chaos to work. When we recorded Last Night On Earth I really felt like it was the last night on earth. Because it was nine o'clock in the morning and we haven't written the chorus for it. It's hard to explain why it would take us eight month or whatever to make a record. But six month were just messing, playing around, songwriting in the studio. And we had Howie B, who is a D.J., in the studio. Therewas a lot of fun just playing with him. And then we had some weeks
where we just played the three of us.

MAX: Three?

Bono: They don't count me as a musician. In fact the only way to get
Edge play the guitar is when I start playing it. Edge thinks that
guitar is a bit stupid instrument. Well, actually it's not the
instrument that he thinks is stupid, he thinks most guitar players
are. Because they all sound the same or they all sound like someone
else. For the last five years America is obsessed with guitar music
and grundge and you can't tell one guitar player apart from the other.
Edge is kind of feeling like "What am I going to do with this guitar?"
He is almost embarrassed about being a guitar player because he wants
to sound fresh so he kind of avoid it. So I will pick up the guitar
and start to play then he go "Ehhh, maybe I just play it" hahaha,
that's the way he goes.

MAX: So have you actually played guitar on this album?

Bono: I've played guitar, some of the guitar solos are mine.

MAX: Wow.

Bono: No, they are not. At Passengers I've played the guitar a bit at
the end of Blue Room. There is a bit of my guitar playing, but
honestly it's sad.

Larry: It is. But Bono looks great with it.

Bono: Just to defend myself for one second. Flood is a fan of my
guitar playing, because he thinks I'm the only punk in the band,
because I don't want to know everything about the instrument that I'm

MAX: Too bad that then Flood wasn't working with you this time.

Bono: Flood was. There's been a lot of confusion about that because
Nellee Hooper was there when we started the record. But Flood is the
overall producer, he was the man. We bought him a spiky helmet for the
studio because it got very mad in the last few month and he really
needed to get strict. We needed him to, because we love to start
things but were kind of hard to finish them. We get bored, get excited
about something else and want to move on. Flood was the grown up who
came in and said "Look I think this is a more interesting direction
than that."

Waiter: Here we are.

Bono: This looks fantastic.

Waiter: This is yours.

Bono: Larry, I just become a vegetarian. It happened live in hells

MAX: Are you a vegetarian?

Larry: Yes

Bono: I'm not evolved enough to be a vegetarian. But it just happened.
Damn, I thought Mexican omelette would have some chicken in it.

MAX: Why did you go to Miami for recording?

Bono: Daylight was the reason we went. Just to see literally the
light. Because we've been in the studio in Dublin for quite a while
and spent all our time in the rehearsing room. The other reason was
that we were looking for a location for the record. Sometimes you need
a location and Miami has some interesting things going on there,
because it feels a little bit like the next century. It's like a
crossroads, South America, Cuba, Caribean, North America. In some ways
it was like being in Berlin, in a weird way, but very different. Miami
has many influences and it's also a kind of a capitol of glamour and
kitsch. But in the end that record doesn't have a location, it really
doesn't. We recorded the song Miami there and a couple of other things
but in the end the fun we had around was as important as the work. We
did want to make a record that had some joy and some sunlight.

MAX: During the recording for Achtung Baby you developed slowly The
Fly. Did you develop any alter ego this time?

Bono: I tried not to, but I might have failed. I actually want to make
quite a personal record. I tried to avoid any persona on the record.
The song MOFO was first called The Return Of The Fly, like a B-movie
and then it became the heaviest song maybe we ever written, I feel
like my whole life is in that one tune. After work I might have
developed a few personas.

MAX: What are others side of your character you discovered lately?

Bono: Nobody is only one person, you have many different dimensions.
The problem is when you are in a band you are sold as a particularly
kind of person. I wake up a different person everyday and generally I
am surprised. I wish I felt like I did yesterday, but I don't and I
have nothing to change. I either wake up very black or wake up white.
I don't seem to have much control over it. I don't know if you call
that personas.

MAX: When I listened to the album I got the impression that you were
dealing with a lot of religious themes.

Bono: You know, I'm half Catholic and Catholicism in Ireland doesn't
seem to have much joy but the Latin Americans have the sexy end of
Catholicism. They have carneval which we don't have in Northern
Europe. We have all of the denial but none of the celebration, that
never came to Dublin or even England. Miami does have a Hispanic
influence and it's just a different twist on there, people are more at
home with their faith. I found that particularly in the Hispanic
catholics and I was really attracted to it. But I also wanted to
explore the big hair and the villains smoking cigars in Miami. So I
want my work to be both, trashy and precious at the same time. Larry
you better talk now, my lunch is getting cold.

Larry: Let's talk about sports. How is Bayern München doing?

MAX: They won the winter finals and Jürgen Klinsmann is doing very

Larry: I'm delighted to hear that.

MAX: Klinsmann was under a lot of pressure recently but he shot the
golden goal.

Larry: So he is back in favour again?

MAX: Yeah, but he is thinking of leaving Bayern München. That's all I
can tell you about sports. What can you tell me?

Larry: Well I can tell you, that Jack Charlton the ex-Irish manager
has just been made an Irish citizen and have been given his Irish
passport. That is a very big deal. And Roy Keene, he is the George
Best of the nineties... you know George Best?

MAX: I'm sorry maybe we change the subject.

Larry: Gymnastics.

MAX: No, let's talk about something else.

Bono: I've been made a Bosnian citizen, I got a Bosnian passport now.

MAX: You still planing on playing in Bosnia.

Bono: If we can make it work. It's hard to talk Larry into it.

Larry: Yeah, because all of the hotels are fucked up and room service
is a bit messy. No I'm just joking, we would like to play there.

MAX: What are other countries you will play?

Larry: We talk about going into places like Egypt.

Bono: You are talking to the right man. Larry would have everyone
playing in his living room and just having people come to his home.
Just talk him into it there.

Larry: No, that's not true. I really enjoy going on tour for two weeks
or something like that.

MAX: But you had three years of domestic life.

Larry: When was the last time you were in a recording studio? You try
and have a life being in the studio, living with these guys. I feel
like I just escaped to New York.

Bono: This now is a party for us because when we make a record, it's a
thing. You loose touch with people, your friends and life. This now is
just a thrill. The only way we could get Larry doing interviews was to
tell him that the record would be over when he was doing them.

Larry: Back to your question. We are planing to go to some unusual
places this time, Ost-Asia, Argentina. I'm really looking forward but
my only fear about going to places like this is to get the ticket
price right. We don't wanna basically play to a section of a
population. We want to play to everybody. When you going to places
like that you have to do it with a TV-company to do a sponsorship
thing and we have to work that out. We wanna play those places but not
at any price. But the tour will be shorter than the last one. Not so
many cities. It will last about a year and a half.

MAX: Larry, you are in control of all the merchandising gear and those
items are very important for financing a tour. Do you already have new

Larry: Ask me why we called the album POP?

MAX: Why did you call the album POP?

Larry: Well, it looks great on T-shirts. I just said to the guys "Look
POP looks great on T-shirts, so why don't we call the album POP?"
That's the reason.

MAX: Will U2 sell condoms again?

Larry: Yeah, pop-ups. Let's not talk about condoms.

Bono: No sex in Ireland.

Larry: There's no sex in Ireland. Yeah, I do look after the
merchandising. Because we've never taken sponsorship it's one of the
ways that we can actually finance tours.

Bono: Larry polices that because a lot of the stuff that people buy at
concerts is made at sweat shops and people get ripped off. For years
and years Larry had always made sure. I think that is one of the
reasons why people buy stuff from us.

MAX: Do you enjoy playing stadium?

Bono: We decided if we play large open places that we would have to
make these things special events. That the old hippie idea of turning
up and playing to a 100,000 people who can't see or hear and are
standing in the mud is just not right for the nineties and that we
shouldn't be embarrassed of it and that we should actually create
these great things.

MAX: But those events are expensive.

Bono: They cost a fortune. Our last tour cost 125,000 dollars a day.
Being honest with you, in doing that we risk bankrupt. And there was a
great thrill doing this but this time we thought we got to be careful.
So we got a better deal now from our promoter. We got a world wide
promoter and I think we got a way of making the numbers out of but the
T-shirts and all the stuff are a part of it.

MAX: Rock stars always seem to be embarrassed to talk about money,
don't they?

Bono: You are right. In white music, particularly white rock in
America and even indie-music in England there is a real embarrassment
about talking about cash. You have these guys who are very shy and
they are like "I don't really want to be in a band, I don't know how
this happen to me, here I am, I'm successful, I'm signed to a major
label, I got heavy management but it's all a bit too much. You don't
see that in Hip Hop, it's so much freer, because those guys are saying
"The music is the music, but I'm also taking care of business." They
are very honest about it, and they always come off like they are
greedy, like it's all about money but it's not.

MAX: U2 seemed to have a problem with earning big bucks in the

Bono: A mistake that we made was trying to explain ourselves. Our way
of dealing with this success was trying to be pure. There was a sort
of righteousness and that can be very dangerous for an artist. So we
dealt with it in saying "we are not righteous." We found a great
liberation actually in not just listening to black music but also in
the philosophies.

MAX: What other philosophies do you see in black music besides their
attitude towards money?

Bono: Things like technology. In white rock music there are some very
bogus ideas of authenticity "Here I am with my torn jeans, I just play
the guitar, I don&'t wanna deal with any of this new technology, I'm a
purist" all that stuff. On the other hand there are the sixteen year
old kids coming out of Harlem or places like that and create the sound
of the next century. They are not afraid of the new technology. And
also as angry as some of the Hip Hop-people get, their music always
has hips - punk got no hips, it's very northern European. It's the
rhythm, the sex in the music.

MAX: So money, new technology, the rhythm. Anything else?

Bono: Their attitude to spiritual things, they are not inhibited. When
we think of Christianity we think of people in suits, repressed, no
joy - go to the churches here, here it's very different.

MAX: After Zoo-TV what will be next. Isn't it hard to surprise the
audience with something new?

Larry: Yeah it is very hard.

MAX: So what can you do about it?

Larry: People say "How you gonna top Zoo-TV?" We are not gonna top
Zoo-TV. Zoo-TV is part of a multimedia thing for us, it wasn't just a
moment in time, it's a much bigger thing. Our next tour will
incorporate some of the bits from Zoo-TV. But I would never say that
we will not go back to be four guys on a stage with acoustic guitars.
I mean, I don't know we could do that. We often talked about doing an
Irish record, a traditional Irish record and that wouldn't really work
together with Zoo-TV. That's not out of the question.

Bono: Nothing is out of the question. We just thought what would Andy
Warhol or somebody who has all the stuff we have been given do? We are
bringing 50,000 people into a space, can you not do something special
with it? There must be things you can do. You have this PA-system,
this very personal music coming out, you got people who want to see
but they are in the back. It's a chance to do something extraordinary.
That's the job, the job is not to be dull. I don't want to talk too
much about the tour because we are still working it out. But I say one
thing: the last time we took a TV-station on the road, this time we
are taking a supermarket.

MAX: Is this the POP-idea?

Bono: Yeah, freedom is the word, like Andy Worhol had. In the 50th and
60th painters had to live in a garret and went through a lot of bans.
He got rid of it, he just said "Here I am, I'm living in this world, I
have freedom to take from it what I want and ignore what I don't."

MAX: When did you learn about Andy Warhol?

Bono: I was quite inspired by him as a kid, I grew up reading Warhol
and I was really excited about him. Right now I just revisiting him.
There are some beautiful things and then to find out that he was a
catholic as well, which he never told anyone. Last night I bummed into
Tony, the galerist and friend of Andy Warhol and he told me that Andy
was actually a very funny guy. At Christmas and lots of times during
the year he was literally on the food lines, feeding people. Things he
never told anyone about, because his public persona was:
"commercialized". There's something to that.

MAX: So will you play around with different characters on stage?

Bono: I don't know. The songs will tell us what to do. The songs
always tell you what to do and that's actually the reason for Zoo-TV.
Those songs took us to that place, the new songs will take us to
another place. I don't think it will be as hyperactive or such a media
overload because I don't think that's what these songs are about. I
think there are very personal songs as well. It's quite a dimensional
record. It starts out like a party record and then sort of turns mean
on you and you are off.

MAX: In the song "Gone" from the new album there is the line "What you
leave behind, you don't miss anyway." But you are notorious for
leaving everything behind.

Bono: Hahaha. You've done your research. This is true and maybe that
is because I never felt any attachment with things. I used to eat
Larry's lunch and sleep in Edge's house. Even when I had no money, I
always felt rich. Obviously in this song I am talking about the past.
You know people complain about being rock & roll-stars, you hear them
all the time these spoiled pop-stars, how hard it is. From the moment
Larry asked me to be in this band it's just been a big adventure and
when "Gone" was written I felt like it was almost the last song ever
for us. But that was what I was feeling that day. What I wanted to
say, it was fantastic, I loved all of this, even the bullshit, I
enjoyed it all, so I could loose that too.

MAX: Let's get back to the material thing. What have you left behind

Bono: This morning I lost the ring that Larry gave me, it's the second
one he gave me. A beautiful silver ring. I lost it last year so he got
me another one, exactly the same in platin. No, white gold actually. I
am working up to the platin one. If I loose this I get a platin one
but I'm sure I find it.

MAX: Larry, wasn't the success of Mission Impossible a big
satisfaction for you?

Larry: Yeah the success was amazing but that was just a bonus. The
real thrill of that was that when we started as a band, the record
company people said things like "The band is great but the drummer got
to go. There was something kind of nice about coming out of behind the
drum kit, doing something that was successful and that was a lot of
fun to do. So "Fuck you" to all the people who said "Larry gonna
always be like that." And it was a whole other experience. Because
with U2 you always have the singer or the guitar player to get you out
of your mess and now you're on your own. So it was good.

MAX: In the eighties you've been the loudest folk band in the nineties
rock & roll-stars. What are you now.

Bono: Flash punk we were.

MAX: Flash Punk?

Bono: Yeah, that's what Mick Jones called us. I don't know what we are
doing now.

Larry: We lost the plot of it.

Bono: Hahaha, yeah. It seemed to be important not to have a location
for this record and it seemed important for us not to be any one
thing. Actually we want to make a record that sounded like our record
collections a bit. All the music we've been listening through U2. And
we listen to such different things, all of us. On one night in my
house we were playing records from Sex Pistols to Chic, to Tricky, to
Donna Summer, to some seventies disco, to some speed metal band. I
think nowadays music is less tribal and it seems quite old fashion the
notion of being only one thing. That day you wake up with a pop-song
so make a pop-song, the next day you wake up with the blackness, you
run with whoever you are. On POP we got this science fiction gospel
song, we got psychedelic pop, we got some trans-stuff, we got some Hip
Hop or TripHop feelings on Playboy Mansion, we just doing what the
fuck we want.

MAX: What do you think of all the reunions that take place. Sex
Pistols, Kiss and now Supertramp?

Larry: If you need the money go for it.

Bono: If people want to hear them. It's not against the law. I have to
say I have never heard a Kiss-record. I don't think I have heard one
song. I might have, but I wouldn't have known it is them. Johnny
Rotten can do what he wants, he's so funny anyway. And it's sad to
see, you know, it took 20 years for punk music to break over here, 20
years and now it's like, what you call it, ahhm, party punk, that what
it feels like to me. 18 year-olds rebelling with the music of their
parents rather than against the music of their parents. It's very

MAX: Can you imagine splitting up in five years and coming back
together in ten years.

Larry: I can but I don't think it will be in the traditional fashion.
I don't think any of us can take a reunion tour.

Bono: I rather go down in flames myself.

Larry: I could nearly guarantee that there will be no break up and
reunion, it would be people off doing different things and coming back
together if everybody wants to do that.

Bono: We have to change the idea what even a rock band is. What can we
do? Andy Warhol said "be creative on every front´." It's not like the
music is sacred and the media is ugly, no! We started a TV-station for
example, so Zoo-TV is going into that area. There's a lot of things
going on.

MAX: Bono, what about your movie Million Dollar Hotel?.

Larry: He wants me to star, but he can't afford me.

MAX: Really?

Larry: Yeah, I'm too expensive.

Bono: Hahaha, to be honest. I wrote this story with Nicholas Klein,
very smart, funny guy, and now Wim Wenders is set to direct and I let
it go to him. Most people say when you give a story to a director it's
like sending away, but I don't feel like that at all. I almost felt
like it was Wim's story always. Because he writes about America in a
very interesting perspective. And the Million Dollar Hotel is a
vehicle for him to use. Another side that most people haven't seen of
him is his humor. He has a evolved sense of humor. Because this movie
is very funny and very sad. I can't tell you who will be in it, but
there are some lovely people in it. Yeah, it's great.

MAX: What are side project you like to, Larry?

Larry: What I love to do is find a really young director and do some
music for film. But not have the pictures and then write the music to
it, but do it together. That's something I like to do in the future
with no rush to do it. I'm not talking about songs necessarily I'm
talking about noises and landscape.

Bono: A landscape gardener. Very good.

MAX: What can we expect from the next century?

Bono: That's a very big question to ask a little pop-group.

Larry: Politically or personally?

MAX: Both.

Larry: I got a new roof to put on my house in Dublin. Gotta get over
the tour, so.

Bono: People always ask "If you could live at any time, what time
would you choose?" I really like now, not because everything is right,
there's a lot wrong and it's not like the sixties. Because in the
sixties there was optimism about the future. People felt that you
could change everything and I don't feel like that now. There is a
sort of desperation now. There is enough food in the world but people
won't share, there is enough intelligence to solve everything out. So
what I find is that people now rather than blaming political systems
have to start looking at themselves. And that's why I try to write
very personal songs. I think that's the clue for the future: it's not
so much about systems but about how people survive in those systems
and have some impact in. It's the most crucial time ever.

MAX: You are supporting Greenpeace and Amnesty International for a
very long time. Are you thinking of supporting any other organization?

Bono: We are all involved in different organizations. We all got ideas
about what we want to do. Some are on a macro level some are small.
Whether you have a small impact on a big problem or a big impact on a
small problem. In a way that U2's music has become quite personal, I
think that the organizations were attracted to that. Amnesty is about
single people who are cut off, it's quite a personal thing, you write
a postcard - you have an impact. And there's the grander problems
which I do think everyone has a responsibility to be a part of.

MAX: Your image in the eighties was like "U2 are trying to save the
world". In the nineties you kind of tried to get away from this image.
What was the reason?

Bono: You have to be careful about crusading, it's a very savage media
age. From my point of view a lot of things we have to do are private.
It looks like if we do things it has to be special. People are bored
from benefit concerts, they are jaded, so you have to be more
imaginative. Imagination is the thing, because people are now not
limited to what they are able to do but they are limited by what their
imagination is capable of. Like a DJ, he doesn't have to play he just
have to know. I think we have to be very imaginative about things.
That's one lesson maybe we have learned.

Larry: People are jaded by benefit things and it's so tragic because
it's worse now than it ever was. And people need that sort of support
and it's not possible to do it, not in the same way. Talking about
Amnesty International and Greenpeace, it just doesn't really make any
sense anymore to a lot of people because there are so many things
going on and everybody is trying to help everybody. Who's
responsibility is this? Is it rock-stars or pop-stars responsibility?
I think Amnesty International and Greenpeace there is a
responsibility, there is something that we can do.

Bono: We definitely got to find new ways. But people who buy our
records are very conscious people. I think so by judging by Propaganda
our magazine. There is a lot of people who want to do something about
where they are and where they live. They don't want to sign up all the
time and that's it. There's a new philosophy been worked out. In the
sixties people dropped out and created their own culture. In the
eighties, a very material time, it was like "Let's forget about all
that and just enjoy the spoils." And in the nineties people are
starting to realize that you can live in that world and work and make
changes in more quite ways. I think that's happening.

MAX: What do you think of the plan having a united Europa with one

Bono: I heard a story the other day that said because the Germans, the
English and the French are never going to agree on where the European
bank should be, that they gonna put it in Dublin. Which is just a very
small chance but it would be so funny. That would be very funny
because Irish people are not very material and that's the best people
in one sense to be in charge of. I'm telling you all those bankers
will get very hip, very quick and they start drinking in Dublin bars,
it would be very funny. That's what I say: move it there!

MAX: What do you think of the Europa idea?

Bono: It is smart because there is so much to be gained by breaking
down divisions and yet there is so much to be gained by knowing our
difference. I'm always been terrified by oneness, the one thing. I
like the difference but I don't like the division.

MAX: Let's move to some lighter subjects. Larry, you finally got a
tattoo. Why did you choose this motive. It's some kind of sun, isn't

Larry: Yeah.

MAX: Tell me about it.

Larry: It's a personal thing. I want to have it for a long time but I
don't like needles so eventually I had to drink heavily and went up to
Woodstock and I got it done there. I am planning it for about ten
years, so a bottle of Whisky and off I went.

MAX: Bono what about you?

Bono: The penis-ring I felt was enough. It's a lot of weight for one
man to carry. No, I'm a virgin in that sense.

MAX: Because rock stars always like to have tattoos.

Larry: It's a tribal thing. My girlfriend had a tattoo for years.
People getting tattoos with all sort of designs but original tattoos
are an art form. And if it's treated as an art form and if you get
something tattooed that means something to you there is something
really special about it. I won't get any more tattoos on my body. I
didn't get it because I'm a rock-star.

MAX: What are new bands you really like.

Bono: Pulp to me is like a science fiction lounge band. And Jarvis
Cocker is a great story teller and he's a great character. You know
most people in England and English bands just think that everything in
America is crap which is too easy but Jarvis figured it out. Oasis, I
think Noel Gallagher is a great songwriter, beautiful melodies. And
there is a group called Bloody Valentine. Two of them are Irish but
they lived in London for a long time. I love their music.

MAX: What do think of Beck?

Bono: Oh yeah, I think he's great. I guess the Beastie Boys sorted
that out, they spotted that rock was running itself into the ground
and they made a left-turn. And Beck was kind of followed them down
that route. I love that song "Truckdrivin' neighbors downstairs" on
Mellow Gold. He seems to have humor and humor is a key. He seems to
have an old soul in a young body.

MAX: When was the last time you laughed yourself to death?

Larry: We laugh a lot actually.

Bono: Yeah. We laugh, Irish people lough a lot, I live in a house full
of laughter. I get high and low, I'm more up and down but Irish people
are full of laughter and I find the American way funny, I do, it's
very funny, I don't laughing at it, it's just the madness of places
New York, isn't it.

Larry: It's really weird coming from Europe where everything is
changing everyday. America is not changing at all, it's exactly as it
was. I don't mean that as negative but some things never change. They
still can't make tea, they don't understand coffee.

Bono: I think they understand coffee. In Miami I laughed a lot. You
should check it out. .

MAX: What is the place to be in Miami.

Larry: South Beaches. There is a lot of stuff going on, it used to be
full of old folks but now all that young guys and girls are getting
in. A new scene, a lot of music, a lot of good restaurants, a lot of
good places. And property is incredibly cheap in Miami.

Bono: The haircuts will keep you laughing alone. The hair does, that's
where it's at.

MAX: Big, fluffy hair?

Bono: Pudle hair. Very cool hair.

MAX: I know that Larry is into sports and doing some work out. What
about you Bono, are you inspired by Larry?

Bono: Yes I am inspired by Larry. I like to swim, that's how I get
fit. I'm not fit now because I've just been in the studio for six
month. I gonna have to get very fit for the tour I suppose and stop
smoking cigarettes.

MAX: Why did you stop smoking cigars.

Bono: I started inhaling them.

MAX: This is what your dad always told you.

Bono: It's true. I still can't smoke in front of my father. And I just
found out recently why he got so upset about me smoking. My father's
father, who was a comedian actually, died of a disease caused by
smoking and on his death bed he wanted to smoke. I find it hard to
find out about things in the past in our family because people don't
talk about the past. So I think that's what my dad sees when he sees
me smoking. He sees his father. But I'm gonna give these things up

MAX: I heard you talking about your father a lot but I never heard you
talking about your kids. You don't like talking about your kids?

Bono: Generally my wife Ali is very private and she tries to keep all
this away from them. She's concerned for them I suppose. But I would
love to talk about them. You shouldn't ask because then I keep talking
about them.

Larry: Don't get him started on Barbie.

Bono: Hahaha, that's right. I got two girls, Hollywood and Hollyweird we call them, it's like a princess and a punk rock, it's fantastic.

Bono: There is a bit of my guitar playing, but honestly it's sad.
Larry: It is. But Bono looks great with it.

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Baaaahhh!...started to read this, but gotta get to class! they are so goofy sometimes, it always brings a smile to my face!
thanks for posting it Carrie, I will have to continue reading this at your website, ONE of the BEST on the web! (shameless promotion for your site)

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Originally posted by ~LadyLemon~:
Thanks! BTW--where do you always find all this good stuff?
if I told you the truth, I'd have to admit to what a nonstop websurfer I am!

So the real answer is I have secret access to PM's files...

Bono: There is a bit of my guitar playing, but honestly it's sad.
Larry: It is. But Bono looks great with it.

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omg, that is an awesome interview! I love how you can see the interaction between the boys and their goddam funny sense of humor! Larry has such a great deadpan style.

btw, great site too, olive.


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Is it possible for me to love Larry ANY more?


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Haha, thankyou! I love Pop and but haven't read much on it.

Larry: Don't get him started on Barbie.

Aw. *fuzzies* *imagining Bono playing with Barbies*

Whew! That was long...

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Originally posted by oliveu2cm:
MAX: Will U2 sell condoms again?

Larry: Yeah, pop-ups. Let's not talk about condoms.
Oh my ... pop-up condoms. Maybe we should have had those for the Elevation tour.

Bono: Hahaha, that's right. I got two girls, Hollywood and Hollyweird we call them, it's like a princess and a punk rock, it's fantastic.
Bono certainly comes up with creative names for his kidies. I thought my family gave me weird nicknames.



"Rock and roll doggie"

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That was great! Gotta love when they start to f*** around with people! That whole thing about the soccer teams...hehe, giggled all the way through the interview!


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Yay!!!! Thanks for posting this! I read this interview a year or so ago, and I've been trying so hard to find it again recently. I thought about posting a thread and pleading with somebody to find it for me, but oliveU2cm beat me to it!

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Bono: No sex in Ireland.


For someone who says there's no sex in Ireland, he sure get's elevated a lot.


"Rock and roll doggie"

"I'm very secure with the fact that I'm not black. I'm white, pink and rosy. But I've got soul."

“We make music you can have sex to.”

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Cool interview

Bono: Ohh, I like breakfast.

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Love me, give me soul.

"If I am close to the music, and you are close to the music, then we are close to each other."

"I believed in leaving your life for rock and roll, and in television, and in origins..."

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I love reading interviews like this...I loved how Bono and Larry were fucking around with the interviewer...too funny! Thanks for posting makes me like them even more...

oh yeah, U2 condoms? Okay, who actually bought one?
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If I had Larry I'd be either doing this all day

or this:

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Originally posted by LarryMullen's_POPAngel:
or this:


*hits April*
stop posting dirty smilies under my name!

Bono: There is a bit of my guitar playing, but honestly it's sad.
Larry: It is. But Bono looks great with it.

Devotion And some appreciation
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Yep, I know what I'd be doing all day with that man.

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I would never do that, Carrie!! lol

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Gotta love guys with a great sense of humor.

Uh-oh...the "P" word. LOL!!

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I love this interview! its to cute!

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