Random Music Talk CXXI: Not this time, Crappy

[lazarus]

Def Leppard over either of those. Love 'em or hate 'em, the sound they arrived at on Hysteria really sounded like nothing else.

[intedomine]

I saw Paul McCartney last week. Wasn't gonna go because the tickets were so steeply priced, but Mum was super keen and uncharacteristically she said "let's just do it" and splashed out decent tix. Was a great night, filled with anecdotes and no less than 15 Beatles songs. Can't believe the old geezer powered through for 3+ hours.

Highlights for me were Love Me Do and In Spite of All The Danger, which I feel privileged to have experienced. His band were brilliant. His newer song "New" was really good as well. Some lovely tributes to George and John.

Saw Future Islands on Monday night, and Fleet Foxes, Hills, War on Drugs and National in the near future as well. May check out Beck as well. Love having a good handful of gigs to look forward to.

[Mack_Again]

Originally Posted by Joey788

https://www.stereogum.com/1975439/bo...adiohead/news/

Bon Jovi makes Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Radiohead does not. Cause that somehow makes sense.

but it kinda makes sense under the context of Hall of Fame.

[iron yuppie]

You can count on a few things in life: death, taxes, and people expressing befuddlement every year when the Rock Hall honors the corporate rockers over the art rockers.

[Axver]

B&C might hate Bon Jovi with a passion, but to your average radio rock forty/fifty-something person who's going to the Rock Hall of Fame because "remember when music used to be good?", Bon Jovi is just U2 without the politics. Woah oh we're halfway there, woah-what more in the name of love, etc.

[HeartlandGirl]

Originally Posted by Axver

Bon Jovi is just U2 without the politics.

I don't think that's even close to true. When did Bon Jovi ever record something like Zooropa, or Pop, or Achtung Baby? They haven't shown that kind of versatility. Even comparing the bands' music videos and overall aesthetic, I don't think Bon Jovi competes creatively with U2 at all, at least not in their prime. And I think the average music fan can see that.

I can see Bon Jovi being inducted as the archetype for hair bands, which were a significant part of rock music for awhile there. They were one of the biggest of that scene. I agree, though, that Motley Crue or Def Leppard would be worthy, and probably better, representatives of that era.

[nielsgov]

Originally Posted by intedomine

I saw Paul McCartney last week. Wasn't gonna go because the tickets were so steeply priced, but Mum was super keen and uncharacteristically she said "let's just do it" and splashed out decent tix. Was a great night, filled with anecdotes and no less than 15 Beatles songs. Can't believe the old geezer powered through for 3+ hours.

Highlights for me were Love Me Do and In Spite of All The Danger, which I feel privileged to have experienced. His band were brilliant. His newer song "New" was really good as well. Some lovely tributes to George and John.

I saw him last year. I had a smile on my face for 3 hours.

[corianderstem]

Originally Posted by Axver

Bon Jovi is just U2 without the politics.

[Axver]

HG and cori, you removed the important context of the preceding two clauses! Random middle-aged radio listener doesn't know or care about Zooropa. They just remember being 21 and getting drunk bellowing Pride or Livin' on a Prayer. They're both eighties stadium rock bands that people outside the fandom would not differentiate nearly as much as we do.

[corianderstem]

I actually was going to add a note about your context, but when I went back to read it, I realized I didn't know what you were getting at.

"...but to your average radio rock forty/fifty-something person who's going to the Rock Hall of Fame ..."

Of course your follow-up post makes a lot more sense!

[lazarus]

Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

I saw Lance's Mom last year. I had a rash on my penis for 3 weeks.

Fixed.

[cobl04]

CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT PAUL MCCARTNEY

Also, totally agree with Axver on Bon Jovi vs U2.

[Mack_Again]

man, people in southern hemisphere sure have different opinions on things

[kabigon]

Originally Posted by Mack_Again

man, people in southern hemisphere sure have different opinions on things

I disagree

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by cobl04

CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT PAUL MCCARTNEY

Also, totally agree with Axver on Bon Jovi vs U2.

Originally Posted by Mack_Again

man, people in southern hemisphere sure have different opinions on things

Yeah I'm thinking this may be a viewpoint down under that is not held by too many folks in the first world.
Fosters clouds the mind.

[martha]

Originally Posted by Hewson

Fosters clouds the mind.

Being upside down all day can't help, either.

[elevated_u2_fan]

or having your water drain the wrong way

[HeartlandGirl]

Originally Posted by Axver

HG and cori, you removed the important context of the preceding two clauses! Random middle-aged radio listener doesn't know or care about Zooropa. They just remember being 21 and getting drunk bellowing Pride or Livin' on a Prayer. They're both eighties stadium rock bands that people outside the fandom would not differentiate nearly as much as we do.

I still disagree. My friends are those exact middle-aged casual listeners. I work at a place full of them. And when U2 was in town, they all clamored for tickets and talked about how important it was, how meaningful, to have a chance to see legends. At a lunchroom discussion, hair bands are still seen as a joke.

And they're not middle-aged, but my teenage students can tell the difference too. One day I put on Bon Jovi for some reason, and there was a lot of laughing and OMGs. When we listen to U2, I hear a lot about how "My parents love them!" Not the case with Bon Jovi.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by HeartlandGirl

. At a lunchroom discussion, hair bands are still seen as a joke.

.

Had shrimp on the barbie, bloomin' onions and Fosters been served that day the discussion would have taken a different turn.

[kabigon]

Originally Posted by Hewson

Had shrimp on the barbie, bloomin' onions and Fosters been served that day the discussion would have taken a different turn.

We don't know what any of those things mean