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Old 09-26-2011, 08:04 PM   #261
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Begin The Begin is kind of expendable.
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No 'E-Bow The Letter' is a travesty.


(Not that I don't already have it and can listen to it anytime I want. But still . . . )
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So many many lacks and other dismissable songs taking place there. It seems like U2 making their compilations...
Where's "Ebow The Letter", "Daysleeper", "Drive", "Cuyahoga" or "Reno"?
And some of those songs could disappear. 4 songs from Green and 3 from Collapse Into Now (plus the outtakes)? Seriously? I'd rather have "Lotus", "At My Most Beautiful", "Electron Blue" or something from Monster (my favourite R.E.M. album) like "Bang And Blame" or "Crush With Eyeliner" instead of "Alligator_Aviator_Autopilot_Antimatter" or "Get Up"...
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So many many lacks and other dismissable songs taking place there. It seems like U2 making their compilations...
Where's "Ebow The Letter", "Daysleeper", "Drive", "Cuyahoga" or "Reno"?
And some of those songs could disappear. 4 songs from Green and 3 from Collapse Into Now (plus the outtakes)? Seriously? I'd rather have "Lotus", "At My Most Beautiful", "Electron Blue" or something from Monster (my favourite R.E.M. album) like "Bang And Blame" or "Crush With Eyeliner" instead of "Alligator_Aviator_Autopilot_Antimatter" or "Get Up"...
At My Most Beautiful is on there.
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It's much better than what U2 do. It seems to be a pretty well-thought out compilation, and not a total denial that the past ever happened, like the unforgivable 90-2000 compilation.
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At My Most Beautiful is on there.
You're right, it is
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So, five singles based Best Ofs since 1988 notwithstanding, I guess for "the fan who has (almost) everything" one grimaces and get this for the sprinkle of new material and even then you just feel couldn't they at least have released a rarities Box Set for us nerds and a straight R.EM.31 Singles set for the more casual audience? it looks unlikely there will be some extended set for the hardcore... this is going out and goodbye after 31 years, man...? dunno, a bit underwhelmed by the listings, given what they could do and what R.E.M used to do and their attention to detail, ie. that each studio album from, I think, Green through to Accelerate had a special edition as an option, but oh them new songs! gotta have the new songs... I hate the modern record industry, I hate the cynicism at heart with these kind of releases in a digital world...

btw those wanting more from the IRS era should get Eponymous, Dead Letter Office and the 2006 And I Feel Fine (shite title, great out-takes) or just get Murmur through to Document, even better!
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As a casual fan who wrote them off in 2000 I would actually appreciate a selection of material from that period up until now.
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The news of their breakup didn't really phase me until I saw the tracklisting for the new greatest hits. Since then, I've been going through the albums, and realizing how sad I am about this breakup.

I feel like outside factors forced this band to break up because they weren't popular any longer. The next step for them was to start hitting the nostalgia/casino circuit (in the US anyway), which they have too much integrity for. I just wish I could've seen them live one more time, but I have the memories of 2 amazing concerts from 2003 and 2004.
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The news of their breakup didn't really phase me until I saw the tracklisting for the new greatest hits. Since then, I've been going through the albums, and realizing how sad I am about this breakup.

I feel like outside factors forced this band to break up because they weren't popular any longer. The next step for them was to start hitting the nostalgia/casino circuit (in the US anyway), which they have too much integrity for. I just wish I could've seen them live one more time, but I have the memories of 2 amazing concerts from 2003 and 2004.
The problem was there are too many bands out there to enjoy and with technology- the internet, its easier to get into other bands, and for some odd reason I just stopped following them or talking about them, And this band made music just as good and honest as Radiohead! but I pledged loyalty to Radiohead forever even though I will always take an interest in other bands in terms of enjoying music ingenuity

Stipe coming out, Bill Berry quitting the group had nothing to do with me losing interest, I just didnt have the patience to admire their later works as much as I did from Out of Time-> New Adventure in Hifi era onwards, too much patience and concentration is needed for good music y'know?
But that song Pearl Jam covered (It Happened today) showed that they didnt lose it
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New Test Leper is a bit of an odd choice; if I were to pick a non-single off of New Adventures I'd go with So Fast So Numb.
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I dislike all of the rockers on New Adventures. No exaggeration there. New Test Leper is a brilliant choice IMO.
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I love 'em, particularly Leave.
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Oh yeah, I guess Leave is a rocker. That one is kind of a downer, but it does have loud guitars. Anyway, it's my favorite of that bunch by a country mile.

My ideal Hi-Fi would be even more depressing than Automatic.
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I hope you ain't dissing Undertow.
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I'm speaking specifically of Wake-Up Bomb, Departure, So Fast, So Numb and (to an extent) Low Desert.

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The track selection is pretty good. My own gripe would be that "Cuyahoga" has got to be on there (my 2nd or 3rd best R.E.M. song!), and probably "Daysleeper" as well. But overall, it's a fairly good sampler.

But yeah, I'm not really down with this industry trend of new tracks on a Greatest Hits. Not only is it a rip-off for the devoted fans who already have everything, it's also nonsensical as a Greatest Hits, by definition, does not have new songs. On how many Hits compilations have the new songs become as famous as the Hits?

NOTE: For the record, 'New Test Leper' is my #1 R.E.M. song, so I'm very glad it includes that!
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On how many Hits compilations have the new songs become as famous as the Hits?
Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance" was a new song on the Greatest Hits, and is one of his biggest songs. Possibly even the biggest among a certain age demographic.

That's one example that immediately sprung to mind.
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Even though its dated Monster is some of R.E.M's most disillusioned work











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I absolutely loooove Monster, it's my favourite R.E.M. album. I disagree with those who said, back then, that Monster is not strong in terms of concept. There's something that connects all those 12 songs besides those distorted guitars with amp vibratto (I love that, reminds me of U2's "Babyface" too). There's so much power in those songs. And, although R.E.M. had already recorded full rockers, they didn't have yet rockers like "these".
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