R.E.M. have broken up - Page 14

GirlsAloudFan · 09-26-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by intedomine

Begin The Begin is kind of expendable.

No, it's not.

FitzChivalry · 09-26-2011, 08:08 PM

No 'E-Bow The Letter' is a travesty.

(Not that I don't already have it and can listen to it anytime I want. But still . . . )

Aygo · 09-26-2011, 08:14 PM

So many many lacks and other dismissable songs taking place there. It seems like U2 making their compilations...
Where's "Ebow The Letter", "Daysleeper", "Drive", "Cuyahoga" or "Reno"?
And some of those songs could disappear. 4 songs from Green and 3 from Collapse Into Now (plus the outtakes)? Seriously? I'd rather have "Lotus", "At My Most Beautiful", "Electron Blue" or something from Monster (my favourite R.E.M. album) like "Bang And Blame" or "Crush With Eyeliner" instead of "Alligator_Aviator_Autopilot_Antimatter" or "Get Up"...

GirlsAloudFan · 09-26-2011, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aygo

So many many lacks and other dismissable songs taking place there. It seems like U2 making their compilations...
Where's "Ebow The Letter", "Daysleeper", "Drive", "Cuyahoga" or "Reno"?
And some of those songs could disappear. 4 songs from Green and 3 from Collapse Into Now (plus the outtakes)? Seriously? I'd rather have "Lotus", "At My Most Beautiful", "Electron Blue" or something from Monster (my favourite R.E.M. album) like "Bang And Blame" or "Crush With Eyeliner" instead of "Alligator_Aviator_Autopilot_Antimatter" or "Get Up"...

At My Most Beautiful is on there.

intedomine · 09-26-2011, 08:19 PM

It's much better than what U2 do. It seems to be a pretty well-thought out compilation, and not a total denial that the past ever happened, like the unforgivable 90-2000 compilation.

Aygo · 09-26-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

At My Most Beautiful is on there.

You're right, it is

patternshirt170 · 09-26-2011, 08:31 PM

So, five singles based Best Ofs since 1988 notwithstanding, I guess for "the fan who has (almost) everything" one grimaces and get this for the sprinkle of new material and even then you just feel couldn't they at least have released a rarities Box Set for us nerds and a straight R.EM.31 Singles set for the more casual audience? it looks unlikely there will be some extended set for the hardcore... this is going out and goodbye after 31 years, man...? dunno, a bit underwhelmed by the listings, given what they could do and what R.E.M used to do and their attention to detail, ie. that each studio album from, I think, Green through to Accelerate had a special edition as an option, but oh them new songs! gotta have the new songs... I hate the modern record industry, I hate the cynicism at heart with these kind of releases in a digital world...

btw those wanting more from the IRS era should get Eponymous, Dead Letter Office and the 2006 And I Feel Fine (shite title, great out-takes) or just get Murmur through to Document, even better!

canedge · 09-26-2011, 08:32 PM

As a casual fan who wrote them off in 2000 I would actually appreciate a selection of material from that period up until now.

The_acrobat · 09-26-2011, 09:33 PM

The news of their breakup didn't really phase me until I saw the tracklisting for the new greatest hits. Since then, I've been going through the albums, and realizing how sad I am about this breakup.

I feel like outside factors forced this band to break up because they weren't popular any longer. The next step for them was to start hitting the nostalgia/casino circuit (in the US anyway), which they have too much integrity for. I just wish I could've seen them live one more time, but I have the memories of 2 amazing concerts from 2003 and 2004.

CrashedCarDriver · 09-26-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The_acrobat

The news of their breakup didn't really phase me until I saw the tracklisting for the new greatest hits. Since then, I've been going through the albums, and realizing how sad I am about this breakup.

I feel like outside factors forced this band to break up because they weren't popular any longer. The next step for them was to start hitting the nostalgia/casino circuit (in the US anyway), which they have too much integrity for. I just wish I could've seen them live one more time, but I have the memories of 2 amazing concerts from 2003 and 2004.

The problem was there are too many bands out there to enjoy and with technology- the internet, its easier to get into other bands, and for some odd reason I just stopped following them or talking about them, And this band made music just as good and honest as Radiohead! but I pledged loyalty to Radiohead forever even though I will always take an interest in other bands in terms of enjoying music ingenuity

Stipe coming out, Bill Berry quitting the group had nothing to do with me losing interest, I just didnt have the patience to admire their later works as much as I did from Out of Time-> New Adventure in Hifi era onwards, too much patience and concentration is needed for good music y'know?
But that song Pearl Jam covered (It Happened today) showed that they didnt lose it

bollox · 09-26-2011, 10:01 PM

New Test Leper is a bit of an odd choice; if I were to pick a non-single off of New Adventures I'd go with So Fast So Numb.

LemonMelon · 09-26-2011, 11:27 PM

I dislike all of the rockers on New Adventures. No exaggeration there. New Test Leper is a brilliant choice IMO.

bollox · 09-27-2011, 12:23 AM

I love 'em, particularly Leave.

LemonMelon · 09-27-2011, 12:36 AM

Oh yeah, I guess Leave is a rocker. That one is kind of a downer, but it does have loud guitars. Anyway, it's my favorite of that bunch by a country mile.

My ideal Hi-Fi would be even more depressing than Automatic.

lazarus · 09-27-2011, 12:41 AM

I hope you ain't dissing Undertow.

LemonMelon · 09-27-2011, 12:47 AM

I'm speaking specifically of Wake-Up Bomb, Departure, So Fast, So Numb and (to an extent) Low Desert.

How The West Was Won
New Test Leper
Undertow
E-Bow
Leave
Be Mine
Electrolite

The Panther · 09-27-2011, 01:27 AM

The track selection is pretty good. My own gripe would be that "Cuyahoga" has got to be on there (my 2nd or 3rd best R.E.M. song!), and probably "Daysleeper" as well. But overall, it's a fairly good sampler.

But yeah, I'm not really down with this industry trend of new tracks on a Greatest Hits. Not only is it a rip-off for the devoted fans who already have everything, it's also nonsensical as a Greatest Hits, by definition, does not have new songs. On how many Hits compilations have the new songs become as famous as the Hits?

NOTE: For the record, 'New Test Leper' is my #1 R.E.M. song, so I'm very glad it includes that!

GirlsAloudFan · 09-27-2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Panther

On how many Hits compilations have the new songs become as famous as the Hits?

Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance" was a new song on the Greatest Hits, and is one of his biggest songs. Possibly even the biggest among a certain age demographic.

That's one example that immediately sprung to mind.

CrashedCarDriver · 09-27-2011, 05:02 AM

Even though its dated Monster is some of R.E.M's most disillusioned work

R.E.M. - Circus Envy - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycvJHQUqU1M&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd5M17e7Wek&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FNfB6WfwM4&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U8qS4xnrp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_8_LpLqKYA

Aygo · 09-27-2011, 06:46 AM

I absolutely loooove Monster, it's my favourite R.E.M. album. I disagree with those who said, back then, that Monster is not strong in terms of concept. There's something that connects all those 12 songs besides those distorted guitars with amp vibratto (I love that, reminds me of U2's "Babyface" too). There's so much power in those songs. And, although R.E.M. had already recorded full rockers, they didn't have yet rockers like "these".

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FitzChivalry Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: At the bottom of the ocean, in the deepest sea Posts: 6,300 Local Time: 11:24 PM	No 'E-Bow The Letter' is a travesty. (Not that I don't already have it and can listen to it anytime I want. But still . . . ) __________________

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Aygo Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Barcelona, Spain [Lisbon, Portugal] Posts: 3,546 Local Time: 07:24 AM	I absolutely loooove Monster, it's my favourite R.E.M. album. I disagree with those who said, back then, that Monster is not strong in terms of concept. There's something that connects all those 12 songs besides those distorted guitars with amp vibratto (I love that, reminds me of U2's "Babyface" too). There's so much power in those songs. And, although R.E.M. had already recorded full rockers, they didn't have yet rockers like "these". __________________

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09-26-2011, 08:14 PM	#263
Aygo Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Barcelona, Spain [Lisbon, Portugal] Posts: 3,546 Local Time: 07:24 AM	So many many lacks and other dismissable songs taking place there. It seems like U2 making their compilations... Where's "Ebow The Letter", "Daysleeper", "Drive", "Cuyahoga" or "Reno"? And some of those songs could disappear. 4 songs from Green and 3 from Collapse Into Now (plus the outtakes)? Seriously? I'd rather have "Lotus", "At My Most Beautiful", "Electron Blue" or something from Monster (my favourite R.E.M. album) like "Bang And Blame" or "Crush With Eyeliner" instead of "Alligator_Aviator_Autopilot_Antimatter" or "Get Up"...

09-26-2011, 08:19 PM	#265
intedomine Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,104 Local Time: 04:24 PM	It's much better than what U2 do. It seems to be a pretty well-thought out compilation, and not a total denial that the past ever happened, like the unforgivable 90-2000 compilation.

09-26-2011, 08:31 PM	#267
patternshirt170 Acrobat Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Branch, NJ Posts: 396 Local Time: 07:24 AM	So, five singles based Best Ofs since 1988 notwithstanding, I guess for "the fan who has (almost) everything" one grimaces and get this for the sprinkle of new material and even then you just feel couldn't they at least have released a rarities Box Set for us nerds and a straight R.EM.31 Singles set for the more casual audience? it looks unlikely there will be some extended set for the hardcore... this is going out and goodbye after 31 years, man...? dunno, a bit underwhelmed by the listings, given what they could do and what R.E.M used to do and their attention to detail, ie. that each studio album from, I think, Green through to Accelerate had a special edition as an option, but oh them new songs! gotta have the new songs... I hate the modern record industry, I hate the cynicism at heart with these kind of releases in a digital world... btw those wanting more from the IRS era should get Eponymous, Dead Letter Office and the 2006 And I Feel Fine (shite title, great out-takes) or just get Murmur through to Document, even better!

09-26-2011, 08:32 PM	#268
canedge Refugee Join Date: May 2005 Location: die for you baby, DIVE for you baby! Posts: 1,480 Local Time: 01:24 AM	As a casual fan who wrote them off in 2000 I would actually appreciate a selection of material from that period up until now.

09-26-2011, 09:33 PM	#269
The_acrobat Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,215 Local Time: 06:24 AM	The news of their breakup didn't really phase me until I saw the tracklisting for the new greatest hits. Since then, I've been going through the albums, and realizing how sad I am about this breakup. I feel like outside factors forced this band to break up because they weren't popular any longer. The next step for them was to start hitting the nostalgia/casino circuit (in the US anyway), which they have too much integrity for. I just wish I could've seen them live one more time, but I have the memories of 2 amazing concerts from 2003 and 2004.

09-26-2011, 10:01 PM	#271
bollox Refugee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,315 Local Time: 06:24 AM	New Test Leper is a bit of an odd choice; if I were to pick a non-single off of New Adventures I'd go with So Fast So Numb.

09-26-2011, 11:27 PM	#272
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,642 Local Time: 11:24 PM	I dislike all of the rockers on New Adventures. No exaggeration there. New Test Leper is a brilliant choice IMO.

09-27-2011, 12:23 AM	#273
bollox Refugee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,315 Local Time: 06:24 AM	I love 'em, particularly Leave.

09-27-2011, 12:36 AM	#274
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,642 Local Time: 11:24 PM	Oh yeah, I guess Leave is a rocker. That one is kind of a downer, but it does have loud guitars. Anyway, it's my favorite of that bunch by a country mile. My ideal Hi-Fi would be even more depressing than Automatic.

09-27-2011, 12:41 AM	#275
lazarus Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 41,669 Local Time: 11:24 PM	I hope you ain't dissing Undertow.

09-27-2011, 12:47 AM	#276
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,642 Local Time: 11:24 PM	I'm speaking specifically of Wake-Up Bomb, Departure, So Fast, So Numb and (to an extent) Low Desert. How The West Was Won New Test Leper Undertow E-Bow Leave Be Mine Electrolite

09-27-2011, 01:27 AM	#277
The Panther Refugee Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,045 Local Time: 03:24 PM	The track selection is pretty good. My own gripe would be that "Cuyahoga" has got to be on there (my 2nd or 3rd best R.E.M. song!), and probably "Daysleeper" as well. But overall, it's a fairly good sampler. But yeah, I'm not really down with this industry trend of new tracks on a Greatest Hits. Not only is it a rip-off for the devoted fans who already have everything, it's also nonsensical as a Greatest Hits, by definition, does not have new songs. On how many Hits compilations have the new songs become as famous as the Hits? NOTE: For the record, 'New Test Leper' is my #1 R.E.M. song, so I'm very glad it includes that!