Racism: glorified hyperbole in America - Page 27

iron yuppie · 07-21-2016, 04:11 PM

Baffling how entrenched the power structure is that the injured man still feels a need to call the officer "sir" even after being shot for no reason whatsoever. And even more sad that his life might have depended on showing that kind of deference.

Oregoropa · 07-21-2016, 04:12 PM

Hyperbole is the buzz word of FYM. Like Hansel 'so hot right now'

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corianderstem · 07-23-2016, 05:51 PM

It's okay - he apparently just meant to hit the autistic guy and missed. I feel so much better now.

LuckyNumber7 · 07-23-2016, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by corianderstem

It's okay - he apparently just meant to hit the autistic guy and missed. I feel so much better now.

"Hey guys, our use of excessive force isn't racist. It sees no color."

**Diemen** · 07-23-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

"Hey guys, our use of excessive force isn't racist. It sees no color."

Right?

It boggles the mind how the officer's explanation makes things better. The behavioral specialist had just spent the last 5 minutes (on his back with his hands up) clearly explaining to the police that his patient was autistic and had a toy truck, and was not a threat, so the police respond by... taking a shot at the autistic guy with the toy truck?!?

dazzledbylight · 07-25-2016, 04:15 PM

this is just ...

I fleetingly heard this in between all the RNC stuff and then didn't hear anything over
the subsequent days
Now I get filled in on it ...

Therapist totally in a Nonthreatening position trying to tell them about the patient and shot for No Reason! Bleeding Not attended to! And they were actually trying to shoot the autistic guy instead?!? Arrrrggggg!

damn...

Then how seemingly pathtic that they then hand-cuff them?

gump · 07-29-2016, 06:23 PM

This is a scene I just experienced 30 minutes ago. I am waiting for a bus in Manhattan beside a lovely African American mother with her 3 young boys. A police car stops by because a car is illegally parked at the bus stop. The mother immediately and instinctively gets the kids and moves away from the police car. She asks the kids to stop playing. Her fear was palpable. She looks at me and her eyes basically say "what can I do?". Nobody deserves this.

If you think this is "glorified hyperbole", screw you.

DaveC · 07-29-2016, 06:28 PM

it's horrifying that every day people are so afraid of those who should be protecting them.

gump · 07-29-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC

it's horrifying that every day people are so afraid of those who should be protecting them.

I started to chat with her afterwards but didn't know if it would be appropriate to bring it up. Horrifying is the right word. That minorities can have so much fear of a moment that most people wouldn't even notice.

BigMacPhisto · 07-31-2016, 11:59 PM

So, she was scared even though the cops didn't approach her? Sounds like someone is just being irrational...

BVS · 08-01-2016, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

So, she was scared even though the cops didn't approach her? Sounds like someone is just being irrational...

Than it must not be real... My god, I think you just solved the issue. Tell everyone their fears are irrational.

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Axver · 08-01-2016, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

So, she was scared even though the cops didn't approach her? Sounds like someone is just being irrational...

Stop trolling.

phanan · 08-01-2016, 10:12 AM

Seriously.

dazzledbylight · 08-01-2016, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gump

This is a scene I just experienced 30 minutes ago. I am waiting for a bus in Manhattan beside a lovely African American mother with her 3 young boys. A police car stops by because a car is illegally parked at the bus stop. The mother immediately and instinctively gets the kids and moves away from the police car. She asks the kids to stop playing. Her fear was palpable. She looks at me and her eyes basically say "what can I do?". Nobody deserves this.

If you think this is "glorified hyperbole", screw you.

I wanted to comment earlier in this, but couldn' t quite put he words together.

Thank you for being aware and sharing this experience which helps to illuminate further on how black mothers and fathers can fear for their children and try to get them to behave in more calm manner that would hopefully not spike a " threatened response" from police.

**Diemen** · 08-01-2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

So, she was scared even though the cops didn't approach her? Sounds like someone is just being irrational...

Either you completely lack empathy or you're trolling.

corianderstem · 08-01-2016, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

So, she was scared even though the cops didn't approach her? Sounds like someone is just being irrational...

BigMacPhisto · 08-01-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

Either you completely lack empathy or you're trolling.

No, because it's just fucking stupid. That woman has a way better chance of dying in a car crash or being murdered by a fellow black person (literally millions of times better chances). It's just completely irrational nonsense.

Now, having a problem with the police killings of blacks and the injustice that is going on is absolutely fine, warranted, and this shit needs to change immediately. But to act like they're liable to murder you at any freakin' moment even when it's got nothing to do with you is just a complete and utterly foolish reaction. It's equivalent to being scared of the neighborhood Muslim walking down the street.

There's probably ten times more blacks being murdered by other blacks in Chicago in a given year than police nationally killing unarmed blacks that weren't attempting to flee and/or fight back. So, to act like some officer rolling up and dealing with a car parked in the wrong place is potentially deadly means someone is letting things get way out of proportion in their own mind...

gump · 08-01-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen

Either you completely lack empathy or you're trolling.

There's a third option here, which is that he is simply a bigot.

BigMacPhisto · 08-01-2016, 04:11 PM

Or it's none of those things and I'm simply looking at things from an actual logical standpoint.

The other day I was in the supermarket and this old man's wife put eggs in his basket and said that she would make them for him tomorrow and he looked at me solemnly because of the cholesterol. Nobody should have to worry about dying from eggs!

So, do you all look at Muslims in America in fear because one of them at any moment could be a terrorist that could end your life? Because that's what this shit amounts to, judging the police on the whole due to the actions of a small percentage of complete idiots.

It's exactly that sort of intolerance and instant judgment that can lead to police being murdered by a few whackjobs and the black community shooting themselves in the foot by being uncooperative with police, etc. That in turn leads to factors that give us scared, trigger-itchy cops and black community members that attempt to fight back and end up dead.

DaveC · 08-01-2016, 04:40 PM

black people kill each other sometimes so other black people shouldn't be scared of cops because that's like hating muslims. great "actual logical standpoint"

07-21-2016, 04:11 PM	#521
iron yuppie ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 10,920 Local Time: 08:50 PM	Baffling how entrenched the power structure is that the injured man still feels a need to call the officer "sir" even after being shot for no reason whatsoever. And even more sad that his life might have depended on showing that kind of deference. __________________

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Oregoropa Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA Posts: 4,144 Local Time: 08:50 PM	Hyperbole is the buzz word of FYM. Like Hansel 'so hot right now' Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference __________________

07-29-2016, 06:23 PM	#527
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,145 Local Time: 09:50 PM	Racism: glorified hyperbole in America This is a scene I just experienced 30 minutes ago. I am waiting for a bus in Manhattan beside a lovely African American mother with her 3 young boys. A police car stops by because a car is illegally parked at the bus stop. The mother immediately and instinctively gets the kids and moves away from the police car. She asks the kids to stop playing. Her fear was palpable. She looks at me and her eyes basically say "what can I do?". Nobody deserves this. If you think this is "glorified hyperbole", screw you.

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DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: slouching towards bethlehem Posts: 23,010 Local Time: 09:50 PM	black people kill each other sometimes so other black people shouldn't be scared of cops because that's like hating muslims. great "actual logical standpoint" __________________

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07-23-2016, 05:51 PM	#523
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 06:50 PM	It's okay - he apparently just meant to hit the autistic guy and missed. I feel so much better now.

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dazzledbylight Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: in the sound dancing - w Bono & Edge :D Posts: 34,974 Local Time: 09:50 PM	this is just ... I fleetingly heard this in between all the RNC stuff and then didn't hear anything over the subsequent days Now I get filled in on it ... Therapist totally in a Nonthreatening position trying to tell them about the patient and shot for No Reason! Bleeding Not attended to! And they were actually trying to shoot the autistic guy instead?!? Arrrrggggg! damn... Then how seemingly pathtic that they then hand-cuff them?

07-29-2016, 06:28 PM	#528
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: slouching towards bethlehem Posts: 23,010 Local Time: 09:50 PM	it's horrifying that every day people are so afraid of those who should be protecting them.

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BigMacPhisto Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,351 Local Time: 08:50 PM	So, she was scared even though the cops didn't approach her? Sounds like someone is just being irrational...

08-01-2016, 10:12 AM	#533
phanan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: in the darkness on the edge of town Posts: 26,319 Local Time: 09:50 PM	Seriously.

08-01-2016, 04:11 PM	#539
BigMacPhisto Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,351 Local Time: 08:50 PM	Or it's none of those things and I'm simply looking at things from an actual logical standpoint. The other day I was in the supermarket and this old man's wife put eggs in his basket and said that she would make them for him tomorrow and he looked at me solemnly because of the cholesterol. Nobody should have to worry about dying from eggs! So, do you all look at Muslims in America in fear because one of them at any moment could be a terrorist that could end your life? Because that's what this shit amounts to, judging the police on the whole due to the actions of a small percentage of complete idiots. It's exactly that sort of intolerance and instant judgment that can lead to police being murdered by a few whackjobs and the black community shooting themselves in the foot by being uncooperative with police, etc. That in turn leads to factors that give us scared, trigger-itchy cops and black community members that attempt to fight back and end up dead.