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Old 07-07-2013, 11:46 AM   #21
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I find it interesting that people use a congregation of about 40 people as the functional equivalent of Islamism - the size and death toll of both groups are no where near equivalent.

And, just to be clear, I condemn the actions of Westboro just like the rest of you.
Not to mention, the WBC are just assholes who picked funerals and act like dickheads. If that's the equivalent people bring up, that says a lot
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:20 PM   #22
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SECULAR education. When you say many are well educated - we are not typically talking about Oxford and Harvard. Little kids going through madrassas and other faith-based schools is a huge issue.
Some of the best schools in America are Catholic - and those schools aren't churning out suicide bombers. I don't think "faith-based" schools are necessarily to blame, but what is being taught in those faith-based schools.
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It's clearly bigger than a fringe. This stuff happens all the time. You know how I feel about Christianity, but when was the last time a group of Christians got together for this sort of thing?
About a thousand years ago...
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Old 07-07-2013, 03:26 PM   #24
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Right. I would never argue that Christianity doesn't have a bloody past. And it certainly has its problems today. But at this point in its history, Islam has a serious violence issue
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But at this point in its history, Islam has a serious violence issue
It's tough to argue against that.
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Some of the best schools in America are Catholic - and those schools aren't churning out suicide bombers. I don't think "faith-based" schools are necessarily to blame, but what is being taught in those faith-based schools.
Catholic American schools are different from religious schools abroad.

Taking the kid gloves off religion means being able to differentiate between Catholic American schools and madrases in the Middle East.
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This is only slightly related, but....

"Soccer referee decapitated after stabbing player to death in Brazil"

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SAO PAULO (AP) — Police say enraged spectators invaded a football field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body after he stabbed a player to death.

The Public Safety Department of the state of Maranhao says in a statement that it all started when referee Otavio da Silva expelled player Josenir Abreu from a game last weekend. The two got into a fist fight, then Silva took out a knife and stabbed Abreu, who died on his way to the hospital.

The statement issued this week says Abreu's friends and relatives immediately "rushed into the field, stoned the referee to death and quartered his body."

Local news media say the spectators also decapitated Silva and stuck his head on a stake in the middle of the field.

Police have arrested one suspect.
What the fuck did I just read
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I shouldn't be laughing but
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Wow, that did escalate quickly.



Why the fuck would a football referee carry a knife on the field?
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Well, soccer is a religion in some countries so yeah, that story can belong here
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Well, soccer is a religion in some countries so yeah, that story can belong here
LOL - good connection
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of course they were not Islamists

this is Brazil

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of course they were not Islamists

this is Brazil



I bet a header would really hurt...
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