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Old 07-22-2010, 09:01 PM   #541
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Her case surely lies against her employer.

But it is worrying that government kow-tows to the rantings of right-wing weirdoes.
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:07 PM   #542
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Her case surely lies against her employer.
I would think that she has multiple causes of action against multiple parties.
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A conservative would never sue, amiright?
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:50 PM   #544
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It's true there are no easy answers. I don't know that the issue regarding illegal immigration is over whether we should "let them in" or "not let them in" but more how we should go about stopping illegal immigration and how illegal immigrants should be treated and what measures should be taken to apprehend them.

I don't know that any but a few extremists would make the argument for completely open borders.
I agree and thanks for your post. We should go after "the bad guys and Coyotes." Who violate human rights and endorse slavery.
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The problem is are these "tea parties" don't even know what they are truly protesting. They have no common voice. Some are saying it's about taxes, some are saying it's about spending, some of the protestors are waving signs about guns. Some are saying it's about Obama, others are saying it's not about Obama. And some are just anti-government.

It's really just a bitch session. And because it has no real voice or reason it won't mean shit.




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which is, in essence, the most utterly moronic thing someone could think.
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Iron Horse, we have no idea whether or not Barry Goldwater if he were alive today would be a Tea Party supporter.

But it's worth bearing in mind that Barry Goldwater said in 1989 that the Republican Party had been taken over by a bunch of kooks.
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Quotes from yesteryear are fun, but real thoughts from real people are what matter...
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Iron Horse, we have no idea whether or not Barry Goldwater if he were alive today would be a Tea Party supporter.

But it's worth bearing in mind that Barry Goldwater said in 1989 that the Republican Party had been taken over by a bunch of kooks.

I agree financeguy.

I really miss people like Barry Goldwater.
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Good luck with that suit.


she seems to think it's a good idea.

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On the other hand, she has yet another case against the federal government. You know, the folks who actually fired her.

the people who apologized and offered her a job once they realized that Fox News and Breitbart had slimed her? that he alone released that truncated video? that they purposely set out to destroy a successful african-american woman to try to "prove" some double-standard about race, the proof that, hey, the blacks "they" do it too? that they're tossing this into the pile of the latest white outrage piece about evil, nefarious black people -- like the one Black Panther, or this mosque that "peaceful Muslims" should refudiate or racist black women who work for the government -- that's rating like gangbusters on Fox News? all designed to "refudiate" the notion that Real American Tea Partiers with their signs aren't the real racists, and the REAL racists are in the Obama administration who are using secret ploys like health care, the stimulus, and the banking bill to exact "reparations" on the American people.

yes, of course, the story her is really about OBAMA and not how the right wing media operates, nor is it about white paranoia at what "they" do. i know we routinely expect the worst out of Breitbart and Fox News, but this is really over the top. many in the larger right wing world have denounced Breitbart and Fox News over this, as they should.

i am sorry that the administration has had so many smashing successes with monumental legislation not to mention 2 more SCOTUS nominees, all while retaining a level of popularity higher than Clinton and Reagan at this point, all while presiding over 10% unemployment. but this race baiting is just another tactic, not a strategy, and it seems like the McCain campaign all over again. demagoguery only gets you so far.

she should sue the shit out of Breitbart.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:30 PM   #551
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Now there's a "Coffee Party"

Renowned film critic Roger Ebert took to his Twitter account last week to challenge former Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin to talk with Annabel Lee, founder of the Coffee Party Movement.

"I'd like to hear this young woman in conversation with Sarah Palin. I'm very serious," the prolific tweeter and Chicago movie maven posted on Friday, along with a link to a February video of Annabel Park explaining the Coffee Party's mission.

On Monday, Park lent her support to the proposal in a Facebook post that recommended a few details of such a potential encounter.

Roger Ebert thinks I should be "in conversation w/ Sarah Palin." Actually, I'd like to debate her. The debate can be a fundraiser for the victims of the Gulf Oil Spill and 99ers (unemployed ...for over 99 weeks, not covered by the benefit extension). What do you say, Sarah? -- Annabel

The Coffee Party describes its mission as pushing for "cooperation in government," with the understanding that "the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will."

In the video accompanying Ebert's original tweet, Park explains the makeup of the group:

"We really have a collection of people who value diversity -- are diverse -- and we're completely comfortable with the changing demographics of our country. I think that it's human for people to be nervous about changes in their neighborhoods and in the demographics of this country, but it's not something that should be encouraged, and it certainly should not be an opportunity for political gain. I think, really, the politicians that are exploiting that fear and anxiety for political gain, they're really the worst."

The potential confrontation between Sarah Palin, a conservative heavyweight and Tea Party champion, and Annabel Park, a growing voice in the progressive movement's reaction to people like Palin, has quickly sparked interest. On Tuesday morning, Facebookers launched a group called Annabel Park v. Sarah Palin Debate.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:48 PM   #552
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yeah

I posted about that last March in the first Tea Party thread that got closed



http://coffeepartyusa.com/



you think they would be better known by now,
maybe they need some 'birthers' of thier own to demand dna tests for Palin and Romney,
Could they really be Osmond Family members, lying about their past?
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:58 PM   #553
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Sorry deep, didn't remember that

I'm going to start a Dunkin Donuts Coolatta party
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no worries, that thread hit 1000 and got closed.
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I think the only logical move now is to start the Gin & Tonic Party, where apathetic people just say "fuck it" and go get drunk.
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:13 PM   #556
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Goodness, I probably have a few years on you and barely remember Barry Goldwater. Didn't he run against Kennedy? I'm not sure. I was a very young child then.

Back to topic.

I consider myself to be a fairly educated woman, watch the news, try to enlighten myself on politics. But, I must confess. I have no idea what the Tea Party stands for.

I would appreciate and respect all information.

Thanks. Please make it simple though, I don't have my new glasses yet.
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Fox News

The author-publisher of "The Tea Party Coloring Book for Kids" says he has received death threats over its publication.

Wayne Bell, publisher of Clayton, Mo.-based Really Big Coloring Books, said in an interview with CBS that his $3.59 coloring book is not political. But some critics think the book was designed for politically conservative adults, and not for children.

"We're not really making a political statement," Bell told CBS, adding that his company also publishes coloring books on the Rockettes, Cirque du Soleil and President Obama.

Bell told FoxNews.com on Thursday that his office began receiving "odd" phone calls and e-mails five days after the release of the coloring book on Sept. 5. Bell said he did not report those incidents to authorities.

"We don't want to be overly dramatic about what's happening," Bell said. "We just kind of let it slide."

Bell said he has received messages containing "horrible, nasty, vitriolic stuff," including a desire for someone to place him in a "chloroform headlock" since its publication.

"It was like a crescendo," Bell said of the messages. "We've locked our front door and put a sign on the door that says, 'please knock.'"

St. Louis County Police Department Officer Rick Eckhard confirmed to FoxNews.com that the department did not have an active investigation involving Bell pertaining to the alleged death threats.

Citing a "need" for a Tea Party coloring book, Bell defended the item as appropriate for children ages 2 to 10.

"Yes, it is appropriate," Bell told Fox News. "We test our products on children."

But Michael Davis, a St. Louis-area Coffee Party organizer, told KSDK.com, "I think it's inappropriate. I really question whether it's even targeted at children. There's not a lot of coloring activities."

Bell said the Tea Party book is his company's best-seller by far, with demand so high that new copies must be printed daily to keep up with demand.

"We have sold many thousands," he told CBS. He told KSDK.com that a military branch of the federal government bought 3,000 copies for kids.

The 32-page coloring book teaches children and parents about the origins of the Tea Party -- "A very pleasant song, coloring and activity book on Liberty, Faith, Freedom and so much more!" -- according to the company's website.

"Get involved, participate, self reliance, freedom of choice, work, government-of-for-by the people, Leadership, Ingenuity, Jobs and responsibilty! [sic]"

But critics point out that a passage of the coloring book reads: "When taxes are too high, the high tax takes away jobs and freedom."

Another reads: "In 1773 we had a Tea Party and this led to freedom from high taxes. Today we are having another Tea Party and this will lead to freedom from high taxes again!"
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But some critics think the book was designed for politically conservative adults, and not for children.
Seriously? Adults are going to flock to that?

Somehow I doubt that.

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The 32-page coloring book teaches children and parents about the origins of the Tea Party -- "A very pleasant song, coloring and activity book on Liberty, Faith, Freedom and so much more!" -- according to the company's website.

"Get involved, participate, self reliance, freedom of choice, work, government-of-for-by the people, Leadership, Ingenuity, Jobs and responsibilty! [sic]"
And yet when Obama mentions those very same concepts in speeches to schoolchildren, suddenly it's "indoctrination".

Goofy idea, especially given some of the amusing comments about taxes and such thrown in, but meh, if they want to put the product out, whatever. You don't have to buy it, after all. And any death threats that are being leveled at the people involved in this are insane-grow up and knock it off, people, you're not helping matters.

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Not-So-Steeped in History: US Tea Party Should Keep Its Hands Off Hitler - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Can't agree more.
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In this midterm campaign season in the US, German history seems to be everywhere. In June, conservative columnist Thomas Sowell of JewishWorldReview.com essentially argued that President Barack Obama, by requiring that BP pay $20 billion (€14.3 billion) to compensate those harmed by the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, was following in the footsteps of Adolf Hitler -- and was promptly praised by Sarah Palin and Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas.
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Last weekend, another Tea Party-backed candidate moved on to a different chapter in German history. Joe Miller, a Republican candidate for Senate in Alaska, intimated that the US should build a Berlin Wall on its border with Mexico. "East Germany was very, very able to reduce the flow," he said. "If East Germany could, we could." ...
There is, in other words, a reason that East Germany was "very, very able to reduce the flow." It wasn't the barrier itself. After all, numerous people devised ingenious ways to escape over, under and through the Berlin Wall (on their way out of, and not into, East Germany, it should be noted). It's just that not all that many had the courage to try. If they were seen, they were shot.

Along with the wall came dogs trained to tear people apart, armed guards equipped with shoot-to-kill orders, mines, and an extremely able domestic intelligence system that permeated all parts of society.
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You can't talk about Hitler without also referring to the historically unique, industrialized slaughter of the Holocaust. Similarly, you can't talk about East Germany's Berlin Wall and ignore the appalling oppression the regime visited on its citizens.
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One can forgive those like Glenn Beck and his Tea Party followers for hating Barack Obama. The liberals, after all, were passionately opposed to George W. Bush and rarely shied away from hyperbole in their expressions of loathing. But it is hard to imagine even the most hard-bitten Tea Party activist sincerely believing that President Barack Obama wants to systematically murder over 6 million people like Adolf Hitler did.
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With Germany's 20th century crimes fading into the past, that is a dangerous path to take. It is a path that all politicians, whatever their leanings, should avoid. The Tea Party should keep their hands off German history.
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There's an article floating around from one of the original "founders" of the Tea Party, where he rants that it's been taken over by Republican operatives and corporations like Koch Industries to push their own agenda.

No shit.
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