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Old 11-12-2012, 10:31 PM   #21
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If you were to annex New York City from the rest of New York Sate, it would go red almost every year.


Perhaps its time we just called it a day and broke this bitch up.
As someone who lived upstate for two years in junior high, I can assure you those in the state and not the city would gladly welcome this.
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As someone who lived upstate for two years in junior high, I can assure you those in the state and not the city would gladly welcome this.

They'd start to miss all that tax revenue they enjoy.
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If they did do it, the MTA would finally not be broke.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:21 PM   #24
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For those of you who still refuse to believe that this whole Petraeus thing is some grand left wing conspiracy, i present to you exhibit A...



boom goes the dynamite.
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Word on the street is that Bill Clinton has tapped Broadwell to be his biographer.
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Word on the street is that Bill Clinton has tapped Broadwell

....... oh, too easy.

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:21 AM   #27
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This would be hysterical if it weren't so scary:

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Planners, organizers, strategists and doers are working quietly behind the scenes, developing a sound political, economic and social blueprint to make this emerging idea a solid reality, with State Governors, Senators and Congressmen being canvassed and lobbied to support this Second Secession, the first was in 1860 which precipitated the American Civil War. Already Secession yard and country signs are popping up all over the Lone Star State Texas, as the Revolutionary Movement for Breakaway gathers momentum and pace. The imminent fear that a second term of the Obama Regime will finish America as we know it is palpable in Tea Party hearts and minds, with grotesque images and nightmares of Sharia Law, Fema Camps, Marxism and RIFD Chips being visited upon American citizens. If the Red States were to secede, Obama would be left with widely separated, bankrupt Blue States and in the event of a 2nd Civil War, Obama would lose, as the Red States control most of US energy sources, pipelines, the Mississippi River, food, nuclear arsenal.
http://conservativepapers.com/news/2...ederacy-rises/

The fact that so many Americans think this way is disturbing. It also makes it clear that the Civil War never ended.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:35 AM   #28
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Even the individual states are petitioning for secession.

Residents In More Than A Dozen States Petition White House To Secede From United States

This did not happen when Bush was reelected in 2004. Sure, there were many disgruntled liberals, but the Left Coast didn't petition to leave the Union. This is silly and it says a lot about many conservatives in the country.
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There's been a secessionist movement in Vermont for years and years.
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I think the Petraeus scandal should probably be a separate thread , but anyway... Now the commander in Afghanistan (Allen?) is being investigated for inappropriate conduct with Jill Kelley. Great to know that these guys in such positions are spending time on stuff like this. And she was busy too, apparently. The FBI agent that she contacted, he was sending her shirtless photos. Don't know if they had a prior relationship. From what's come out about these e-mails they were "threatening" in the standard jealous woman way, not life threatening. So why the FBI involvement? She's from a wealthy, connected family. So maybe that's one reason. Or she already knew the guy and he was trying to impress her.

The shirtless FBI agent was removed from the case, then he went to the Congressman who went to Eric Cantor.
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I'm starting to think there's a real problem with straights in the military.
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According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI had uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 "potentially inappropriate" pages of communication between Allen and Kelley, Petraeus's alleged other other woman and the subject of the shirtless FBI agent's affection.

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta released a statement early this morning, saying Allen will retain his position for now.

"While the matter is under investigation and before the facts are determined, General Allen will remain commander of ISAF," Panetta said, referring to the NATO-led force in Afghanistan.

However, Panetta did ask the Senate to hurry proceedings to appoint Allen's likely successor, Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford.

But back to all those emails. Reportedly, they were all sent between 2010 and 2012, although it's not clear if they were ongoing or if they stopped earlier this year.
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Before this thing is over, the FBI will literally have binders full of women.
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Former GOP vice-presidential nominee and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is blaming President Barack Obama's win on his turnout in cities.

In one of a series of first interviews following the loss by Ryan and Mitt Romney last Tuesday, Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Well, he got turnout. The president should get credit for achieving record-breaking turnout numbers from urban areas for the most part, and that did win the election for him." Ryan repeated the line to local station WISC-TV.

But Politico's James Hohmann notes that the Romney-Ryan ticket also lost predominately white and rural states like Iowa and New Hampshire, and underperformed in Midwestern states.




Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal hurled harsh criticism at his own party after the GOP was blindsided in the 2012 elections, telling Republicans to end "dumbed-down conservatism" by putting a stop to "offensive, bizarre" comments.

“It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments -- enough of that,” Jindal told Politico. “It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

Jindal told Politico Republicans should “stop being the stupid party” by working to embrace a larger group of constituents rather than becoming the party of "big anything."

The GOP governor criticized the idea that the GOP is "the party that simply protects the rich." Jindal even took a jab at Mitt Romney's now-infamous "47 percent" remarks, noting Republicans would have to be more inclusive going forward.

“The Republican Party is going to fight for every single vote,” he said. “That means the 47 percent and the 53 percent, that means any other combination of numbers going up to 100 percent.”
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Former GOP vice-presidential nominee and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is blaming President Barack Obama's win on his turnout in cities.

In one of a series of first interviews following the loss by Ryan and Mitt Romney last Tuesday, Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Well, he got turnout. The president should get credit for achieving record-breaking turnout numbers from urban areas for the most part, and that did win the election for him." Ryan repeated the line to local station WISC-TV.
That's quite a bit of biased reporting "blaming President Barack Obama's win on his turnout in cities". To be fair, Ryan gives Obama credit for achieving the urban turnout, not 'blaming' it on his loss.

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I like this quote, from the same article:
"We've got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything. We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys."
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Before this thing is over, the FBI will literally have binders full of women.


An ABC Affiliate in Denver accidentally ran a story featuring a fake cover for the biography.



ABC Affiliate Ran Phony Cover of Broadwell Book | The Weekly Standard
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See what happens when you repeal Don't Ask Don't tell and legalize gay marriage?
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This pretty much sums things up for me
Letter to a future Republican strategist regarding white people
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