Vlad n U 2
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Surely the end of artdirector is near? Isnt there a "12 strikes of inane garbage and your out" policy?
Why can't it be 3 strikes?
Surely the end of artdirector is near? Isnt there a "12 strikes of inane garbage and your out" policy?
They're both crap in their current form. North Star has 'potential'.
Return of Stingray Guitar
Isn't that just a new tour intro ? Not a full song ?
I think anyone hating on North Star is mad. That is a beautiful, beautiful song.
"Glastonbury" should end up as a b-side and not an album cut. Decent tune, but nothing special.
"Return of the Stingray" is promising, though Edge still insists on trying to be Jimmy Page. Ain't gonna happen, my man. Try something else. Still, the keyboard flourishes add a nice texture to the song, so I'll wait and see on that one.
I very much agree with Ozeeko. "Cock-rock" was the exact term I was thinking just after I heard better recordings of the new songs and new intro and just before I logged on here.
His summation of Bono's annoying stage personality is just right.
I don't know about what BVS said, but I do agree that many people (those who even agree on precisely the ways in which U2 is sucking this past decade) still attack those who also express those same opinions at another time or perhaps with greater frequency.
These new songs are embarrassing and I really dislike Beautiful Day and HATE Vertigo.
It's not just Bono. In that documentary about guitar playing released in 2008 and 2009, The Edge is ridiculously proud of that horrible "Get On Your Boots" riff. I've said it before, U2 keeps self-consciously trying to ensure a legacy by trying to ape their heroes, rather than stick to what was actually building them a legacy -- their unique music. With or Without You, Running to Stand Still, Bad, the entirety of Achtung Baby. Maybe one could point to slight influences from the past (I don't know much about '60s or '70s music), but I couldn't detect it. Now, I totally can hear the attempts at formula.
Also, Bono's stage antics are annoying. As a heterosexual male, Bono looked sexy in Rattle and Hum, even if it was a tad over the top, but, now, his attempt at acting young is much less cool than how he used to act in the '80s and '90s. He keeps doing that angry scream pose and acting like a bad ass.
Anyway, the music is the main thing, and U2 is falling short and hopefully if enough of us complain, some folks close to U2 will express this.
It's sad seeing your favorite band keep dying every year a little more. I AM A FAN, but I want and believe U2 can get back to its greatness by being true to itself instead of these embarrassing dumbing down attempts at popularity. Has Radiohead's success taught the band nothing? They can either be Radiohead or Rick Astley. The charts aren't everything and that last album wasn't a full throttle effort; it was held back by these same anxieties.
Actually none, the slow song just has nothing to it.
The 'faster' song just sounds like another SUC/LAPOE, U2 desperatly trying to prove they can still rock or something? Please Edge just bring back your delay pedals and make a good melodic song instead of these plain boring riffs.
Interesting that you mentioned "The Fly", "Zoo Station", UTEOTW, HMTMKMKM, "Discotheque", 'cause all of them have heavy inspiration from the 1970's rock, but they're not straight 1970's wannabe songs. I think that's part of the thing with "Glastonbury" or ABOY (and I'm a fan of ABOY): they're trying to seem they directly came from the 1970's and they're not defying as the first ones.I am puzzled at all of the criticism the Edge is receiving for using a 'hard rock' sound, when that same hard rock sound informed The Fly, Zoo Station, UTETOTW, HMTMKMKM and Discotheque, which are (rightly) lauded on these forums. I get the impression that some people on here want to deconstruct rock music out of existence, leaving nothing but 'nice melodies'. In my view that is a defeatist approach- I want U2 to rock hard and I also want them to incorporate club music influences again, like they did in the 1990s. I feel Glastonbury is a move in the right direction.
I very much agree with Ozeeko. "Cock-rock" was the exact term I was thinking just after I heard better recordings of the new songs and new intro and just before I logged on here.
His summation of Bono's annoying stage personality is just right.
I don't know about what BVS said, but I do agree that many people (those who even agree on precisely the ways in which U2 is sucking this past decade) still attack those who also express those same opinions at another time or perhaps with greater frequency.
These new songs are embarrassing and I really dislike Beautiful Day and HATE Vertigo.
It's not just Bono. In that documentary about guitar playing released in 2008 and 2009, The Edge is ridiculously proud of that horrible "Get On Your Boots" riff. I've said it before, U2 keeps self-consciously trying to ensure a legacy by trying to ape their heroes, rather than stick to what was actually building them a legacy -- their unique music. With or Without You, Running to Stand Still, Bad, the entirety of Achtung Baby. Maybe one could point to slight influences from the past (I don't know much about '60s or '70s music), but I couldn't detect it. Now, I totally can hear the attempts at formula.
Also, Bono's stage antics are annoying. As a heterosexual male, Bono looked sexy in Rattle and Hum, even if it was a tad over the top, but, now, his attempt at acting young is much less cool than how he used to act in the '80s and '90s. He keeps doing that angry scream pose and acting like a bad ass.
Anyway, the music is the main thing, and U2 is falling short and hopefully if enough of us complain, some folks close to U2 will express this.
It's sad seeing your favorite band keep dying every year a little more. I AM A FAN, but I want and believe U2 can get back to its greatness by being true to itself instead of these embarrassing dumbing down attempts at popularity. Has Radiohead's success taught the band nothing? They can either be Radiohead or Rick Astley. The charts aren't everything and that last album wasn't a full throttle effort; it was held back by these same anxieties.
What i still dont get, why is it that the people who hate U2 these days still keep coming onto this forum just to try and convince everyone that likes the new songs etc that they are wrong?
Basically what they are saying it "we dont like the new stuff, so thats it U2 are crap now everyone and if you like the songs then your opinions dont count for nothing.
I very much agree with Ozeeko. "Cock-rock" was the exact term I was thinking just after I heard better recordings of the new songs and new intro and just before I logged on here.
His summation of Bono's annoying stage personality is just right.
I don't know about what BVS said, but I do agree that many people (those who even agree on precisely the ways in which U2 is sucking this past decade) still attack those who also express those same opinions at another time or perhaps with greater frequency.
These new songs are embarrassing and I really dislike Beautiful Day and HATE Vertigo.
It's not just Bono. In that documentary about guitar playing released in 2008 and 2009, The Edge is ridiculously proud of that horrible "Get On Your Boots" riff. I've said it before, U2 keeps self-consciously trying to ensure a legacy by trying to ape their heroes, rather than stick to what was actually building them a legacy -- their unique music. With or Without You, Running to Stand Still, Bad, the entirety of Achtung Baby. Maybe one could point to slight influences from the past (I don't know much about '60s or '70s music), but I couldn't detect it. Now, I totally can hear the attempts at formula.
Also, Bono's stage antics are annoying. As a heterosexual male, Bono looked sexy in Rattle and Hum, even if it was a tad over the top, but, now, his attempt at acting young is much less cool than how he used to act in the '80s and '90s. He keeps doing that angry scream pose and acting like a bad ass.
Anyway, the music is the main thing, and U2 is falling short and hopefully if enough of us complain, some folks close to U2 will express this.
It's sad seeing your favorite band keep dying every year a little more. I AM A FAN, but I want and believe U2 can get back to its greatness by being true to itself instead of these embarrassing dumbing down attempts at popularity. Has Radiohead's success taught the band nothing? They can either be Radiohead or Rick Astley. The charts aren't everything and that last album wasn't a full throttle effort; it was held back by these same anxieties.
I am puzzled at all of the criticism the Edge is receiving for using a 'hard rock' sound, when that same hard rock sound informed The Fly, Zoo Station, UTETOTW, HMTMKMKM and Discotheque, which are (rightly) lauded on these forums. I get the impression that some people on here want to deconstruct rock music out of existence, leaving nothing but 'nice melodies'. In my view that is a defeatist approach- I want U2 to rock hard and I also want them to incorporate club music influences again, like they did in the 1990s. I feel Glastonbury is a move in the right direction.