Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
Crikey, that's the new standard. As long as Trump has done something worse, it's OK.
Welcome to America, 2018.
it kind of does negate criticism from those who defend Trump, tho.
Crikey, that's the new standard. As long as Trump has done something worse, it's OK.
Welcome to America, 2018.
it kind of does negate criticism from those who defend Trump, tho.
I think it's OK to call out Michelle Wolf.
Oh, sure. But it's a totally different world of lying.
I expect politicians to lie. And they often lie about things with dire consequences. Sometimes it's completely intentional (whaddup, Iraq war), maybe sometimes it isn't (I don't know for sure about the ACA stuff - "keep your doctor" and whatnot).
Now we have Trump who just can't seem to NOT lie, about stuff that's inconsequential but obviously a lie (crowd numbers), and very consequential (voter fraud numbers). And on and on and on. There are oodles of collections of all his lies so far out there.
Some of it may not be intentional lying, since he obviously doesn't know very much about how the government actually works, but I don't understand how Trump is remotely comparable to a "regular" politician we just assume is lying because hey, politics.
Which is still extremely horrifying. The Republican Party is a brutal party that ruins many aspects of society anytime they are in power.He's far from a normal politician. That said, when you strip away all the lies, the stupid Tweets, the vulgarity, the complete lack of character, etc., policy wise he's done things that more or less any other Republican President would have (for better or worse).
What in the world is possibly offensive about anything Wolf said? She said nothing offensive, she just called the PR wing of this abominable administration out for doing exactly that. In what way was it unnecessarily cruel?
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He's far from a normal politician. That said, when you strip away all the lies, the stupid Tweets, the vulgarity, the complete lack of character, etc., policy wise he's done things that more or less any other Republican President would have (for better or worse).
Lolz
Captain Contrarian strikes again.
And for God's sake can we please retire the strawman trope about what we all would have done had this happened to to President Hillary (pro tip: she'll never be President) and the implication that women scream about sexism anytime a woman is criticized. It's so old and so stupid.
Just like labeling anyone who opposed Obama as an obvious racist.
And for God's sake can we please retire the strawman trope about what we all would have done had this happened to to President Hillary (pro tip: she'll never be President) and the implication that women scream about sexism anytime a woman is criticized. It's so old and so stupid.
Also, can we retire this "elite" bullshit? This Koch-backed couple who were all sniffy about Wolf's speech are just the worst kind of disingenuous.
The amount of times I encountered people over those 8 years who literally said that opposition to Obama in general was because "people just can't deal with having a black president" as well as reading it on this forum says to the contrary.Again, a tired old trope.
When Trump went birther, that was based in racism.
When Republicans e-mailed ha-ha photos of the Obamas on the bodies of gorillas, that was racist.
When people criticized Obama for say, his "red line" in Libya, that was not racist, nor were they all "labeled" as obvious racists.
Let's stop making this up too.
(sigh).
I was saying, as you should have known, that there's always a line, and that if you think, for example, racism and sexism crosses a line, but cruelly mocking someone to their face doesn't, it just means that you place the line differently than others would.
In any event, it is possible, Irvine511, to object to something that was neither racist or sexist.
So we’re all agreed now, re: the questions: obstruction is a slam dunk, and Jared is guilty AF.
Depends on whether or not you're an honest brokerSo we’re all agreed now, re: the questions: obstruction is a slam dunk, and Jared is guilty AF.