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No wonder her career is over. Any spiritual audience she ever had has to feel sinful when they see this picture.INDY500 said:
Much less offensive to the New York Times no doubt.
No wonder her career is over. Any spiritual audience she ever had has to feel sinful when they see this picture.INDY500 said:
Much less offensive to the New York Times no doubt.
Macfistowannabe said:No wonder her career is over. Any spiritual audience she ever had has to feel sinful when they see this picture.
Irvine511 said:
i dunno ... it kind of turns me on.
Macfistowannabe said:But yet you exaggerate that what they desire is a Christian theocracy. Should we fear it more than an Islamist theocracy?
Macfistowannabe said:
Nothing mentioned on the statue contradicts Christianity. Neither does the Constitution itself, the Bill of Rights, or the Declaration of Independence.
"THE LIBERATION OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS" book... never read it, but I could look into it to see what the big deal is. If private schools and homeschooling are under attack as it is, you can expect parents of those students to push religion in public schools as a direct result of a monopoly of public schools.
Macfistowannabe said:
What religion has done more for America than Christianity? Somehow, the cross is ridiculously mistaken for a symbol of oppression by loons from the ACLU and other Anti-Christian organizations. It is not "intolerant" to admit that our country has been shaped by Judeo-Christian values and heritage.
Macfistowannabe said:But yet you exaggerate that what they desire is a Christian theocracy. Should we fear it more than an Islamist theocracy?
Nothing mentioned on the statue contradicts Christianity. Neither does the Constitution itself, the Bill of Rights, or the Declaration of Independence.
"THE LIBERATION OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS" book... never read it, but I could look into it to see what the big deal is. If private schools and homeschooling are under attack as it is, you can expect parents of those students to push religion in public schools as a direct result of a monopoly of public schools.
What religion has done more for America than Christianity? Somehow, the cross is ridiculously mistaken for a symbol of oppression by loons from the ACLU and other Anti-Christian organizations. It is not "intolerant" to admit that our country has been shaped by Judeo-Christian values and heritage.
80sU2isBest said:
You are making a lot of assumptions about the people in that photo.
You are assuming that
(1) Those people go to that church
and that
(2)They approve of the statue
and that
(3) They are the kind of people that would "eat alive" anyone
There are a lot more assumptions that your statement could be making, but I think you get my point.
Irvine511 said:
but keep on kicking at the NYT!
soon, you won't have any boogeymen left to blame.
Good point, in America which is a majority Christian nation any threat from Church interfering with State is from Christianity; but the magnitude of damage that would be inflicted is smaller than that done in Islamic theocracies wherever they emerge. But just because Christian Theocracy is less about slicing the hands off theives and executing girls for crimes against chastity is no reason not to defend the secular nature of government.Macfistowannabe said:But yet you exaggerate that what they desire is a Christian theocracy. Should we fear it more than an Islamist theocracy?
melon said:Christian theocracy has already been a failure, and history has plenty of examples, whether that be the general imperial theocracy of medieval imperial Europe, American Puritanism, Franco in Spain, Salazar in Portugal, or Duplessis in Québec.
What has to be remembered is that the legacy of every last Christian theocracy has been a general rejection of Christianity following their inevitable collapse. Europe generally has wanted little to do with religion in post-imperial Europe, because they lived through the centuries of abuses that occur in Christian theocracies. The same can be said about modern-day Spain, Portugal, and Québec. You'd think this would be enough history to learn from to discourage wanting to create an American Christian theocracy, but apparently our religious fanatics are poor students of history.
I'll put it this way: if you want to usher in centuries of atheism, destroy the American economy, and put in the last nails in the coffin of Christianity, create an American Christian theocracy.
Melon
You've made some honest points here, but I don't believe that the majority within the "New Right" in the United States want a Christian theocracy.A_Wanderer said:Good point, in America which is a majority Christian nation any threat from Church interfering with State is from Christianity; but the magnitude of damage that would be inflicted is smaller than that done in Islamic theocracies wherever they emerge. But just because Christian Theocracy is less about slicing the hands off theives and executing girls for crimes against chastity is no reason not to defend the secular nature of government.
U2Bama said:I have an assortment of responses to this issue.
People who try to piece together arguments that this country was founded as some type of Christian theocracy need to go back another 1700 years and realize that the New Testament itself does NOT call for the establish of a Christian theocracy. The commission to "go and make Christians of all the nations" applies to the people in those nations, and if you've read enough of what Jesus said, it's quite evident that his recommended of "making Christians" of people had much more to do with living by example than it did any type of coercion.
~U2Alabama