ILuvLarryMullen
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this book is obviously part of the homosexuals' consipracy to turn our children gay
martha said:
Now you've gone too far. Where are the permission slips?
Dreadsox said:
But a fucking boatload of goodwill on the part of the community...
to the point where the one or two would not have a stage to protest....rallying support against said book not because people are opposed to the book....but because they would have had a say in their child's education.
and maybe, just maybe, if people gave parents a little bit of respect...50 years from now...there would be no need for a permission slip....but just like civil rights...we are not there yet....
But I shudder that we may, by shoving it in the parents faces that we can teach what we want.....may be putting things back to 100 years from now.
martha said:
I completely see your point.
And for all my posturing on this, I wouldn't even read the book to my big kids, but I'd have it in my classroom library for checkout.
Dreadsox said:
But a fucking boatload of goodwill on the part of the community...
to the point where the one or two would not have a stage to protest....rallying support against said book not because people are opposed to the book....but because they would have had a say in their child's education.
and maybe, just maybe, if people gave parents a little bit of respect...50 years from now...there would be no need for a permission slip....but just like civil rights...we are not there yet....
But I shudder that we may, by shoving it in the parents faces that we can teach what we want.....may be putting things back to 100 years from now.
Dreadsox said:I think the underlying problem is.....
That America does not yet equate Civil Rights with Gay Rights. I have read enough, as I am sure you have, that African American churches here in Massachusetts have been outspoken that they are not the same thing. [/B]
Irvine511 said:
yes, but America and the African-American churches are simply wrong.
i mean, they are. history will not be on their side, and they'll all look like a bunch of George Wallace's in 20 years.
and it still doesn't change the fact that gay families exist. why make this fact predicated upon the will of the parents?
ILuvLarryMullen said:this book is obviously part of the homosexuals' consipracy to turn our children gay
blueyedpoet said:
You know that's why they want to adopt
ILuvLarryMullen said:
next thing you know they'll be wanting abortions too ! I say that is something that is intended to be between a man and a woman. It's a slippery slope i tell ya!
blueyedpoet said:More than likely, the kid would shrug it off and just accept it.
Irvine511 said:
yes, but America and the African-American churches are simply wrong.
i mean, they are. history will not be on their side, and they'll all look like a bunch of George Wallace's in 20 years.
and it still doesn't change the fact that gay families exist. why make this fact predicated upon the will of the parents?
WildHoneyAlways said:Edit: Perhaps this is more of a grade school issue? I'm not aware of these types of meeting at the high school level.
Dreadsox said:
Protecting their innocence for as long as possible and letting them be children is ALWAYS an issue in an elementary school. That is not a "gay family" issue. \
anitram said:I can comment from the POV of somebody who immigrated to North America as a child, and we experienced complete culture shock. Suddenly you live in a multicultural society with people of many faiths, where gays although discriminated against still live far better lives in the public than in most of the rest of the world and so on. And my parents understood that we live in a global society and this is the future of the world. So instead of trying to bend the world to be the way we would have it, we adapted to our new surroundings. You have to be socialized eventually and nobody lives in a bubble. And I understand that these parents want to raise their children the way they see fit, but on this issue, they are dead wrong. Their kids live in a different world today and they need to understand those realities if they are to move beyond their parents' views, which frankly, they will have to. The world is fluid and we evolve along with the tide.
As a parent you certainly have the right to try to rear your children in a way you think it's best. But perhaps these parents should consider what is best for the kids longterm and not what is best for the parents themselves. They will grow up, become teenagers, move away and form their own views one day. Is it not better to allow them a fuller picture of the society in which they live than to restrict their vision to views which are no longer realistic in this world. That's the bottom line here.