NFL 2007 Part 4

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I read your reply to my question....I think I mostly agree....I want the teams I root for to win without excuses, but I'm not going to cry anyone a river if a key player on the opponent's roster gets injured.

How often do you reference, or, hell, wear clothing from the 16th century?
 
phillyfan26 said:
Before that point and time I'd seen about three smilies ever from Hewson.

He has a smile that can light up a stadium.

It seems Fassel is all but guaranteed to be the Skins' HC. Again, won't someone please beat me senseless?
 
I'll defend the Musketeers to the death ... unless one of us hasn't viewed The Godfather.

10 days, YLB.
 
:sad: You haven't seen Jaws 3-D????!?! WTF are you still doing talking to me? :madspit: It's >>>>>>>> U23D according to Zoo Station voters.
 
Not that this is going to change anyone's beliefs here (I'm talking to you, Headache:sexywink: ), but here is an interesting article by Jim Trotter - he says what I was trying to say much better than me!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jim_trotter/01/23/tomlinson/index.html


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Once again, it seems the only thing we in the media love more than building up athletes is tearing them down.
The latest example is running back LaDainian Tomlinson, who is being criticized for playing only two series in the Chargers' 21-12 loss at New England last Sunday in the AFC Championship Game.
Tomlinson, who strained the medial collateral ligament in his left knee the previous Sunday at Indianapolis, thought he would be able to contribute after practicing late in the week. But he aggravated the injury on his first carry from scrimmage when he was hit on the knee by the Patriots. Two touches later, he was on the sideline for good.

Since then, Tomlinson, the 2006 league MVP and co-Man of the Year, has been called soft by some, weak by others. He has been second-guessed by people he doesn't know and people he has invited into his home, most notably NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders.

"What's the problem?" Sanders said. "You're a big-time player, and big-time players must play big-time games."
Sanders added Tomlinson would have to undergo knee surgery for Sanders to give him "a pass" for not returning.

The comments nearly had Terrell Davis jumping through his plasma screen. Like Sanders, Davis is an NFL Network analyst. Like Sanders, he is a former player. Unlike Sanders, he understood just what Tomlinson was going through.

Davis played running back for the Broncos in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and he struggled with knee injuries at the end of his career. That's why he had no problem slipping into Tomlinson's cleats.

"I've played with broken fingers, I've played with separated shoulders, cracked ribs, even turf toe," Davis said. "Those things you can kind of get away with. But when you're talking about the knee, it just ain't the same. I've had games where I've tried to do the same thing that L.T. did. I went out there and I told myself, I told my teammates that I was going to play. That was my mindset. I was trying to encourage myself to believe that I could go out there and play and be effective. But the moment of truth is when you start getting hit and you're in a game and the speed is faster and people are grabbing at your knee and twisting it.

"If it's not responding, there's nothing else you can do but just sit yourself down. I would have hated to see L.T. go out there and continue trying to play in that game and look the way he looked. You had a better chance with (Michael) Turner in the game because he gives you 100 percent of something."

Mark Klion is a board certified orthopedist who specializes in sports medicine at Mount Siani Hospital in New York. When asked about the likelihood of a running back playing with a sprained MCL, he said: "Most athletic individuals who have a mild or a moderate strain have a lot of difficulty performing twisting, pivoting activities. I don't care what level you're at, it hurts. So from that perspective, could a professional running back play where so much of his activity is based on stop-start, side-to-side direction? Even Superman couldn't play with it."

The criticism of Tomlinson is ridiculous on so many levels, but particularly when it comes from a former professional athlete who has been sidelined by injury himself.
"I'm saying, 'Deion, how do you forget what it feels like to have an injury?'" Davis said. "Deion's point was that L.T. told him all week, 'I'm 90 percent healthy and I'm going to play.' And then he goes out there and plays for three touches. But Deion felt that you lied to us, you lied to me. I'm saying, wait a minute, man. I'm sure L.T. had every intention of trying to finish that game. He was trying to finish that game. That's the biggest game of his career thus far, and you think he's going to sit on the sideline for some mental reason? When he's on the sideline, I understood how he felt. He felt so embarrassed because he couldn't contribute.

"People say, 'Why wasn't he up talking to Turner or speaking to the running backs trying to give people insight on what he saw from the sideline and trying to encourage people? That's not L.T.'s role. L.T. has been a leader because he's been doing it on the field. When you can't do it, you feel like you've got the measles, the mumps. You feel like you've got a disease because people look at you like you're crazy. You feel like you're an outcast sometime. It's the strangest thing in sport now: When people get hurt, your teammates look at you funny. But I understood the way he felt."
The irony is that Tomlinson has been one of the league's more durable players since entering the league in 2001, missing only one game in seven seasons. He has played when it mattered most, and when it didn't matter at all. Consider:

• In 2003, he sustained a slightly separated shoulder the week before the season finale against the Raiders. At the time the Chargers had lost five of six and were 3-12 overall. The only things they had to play for were pride and each other, which is why Tomlinson took a pain-numbing shot beforehand and ran for a franchise-record 243 yards.
• In 2004, the Chargers had clinched the AFC West title and a home playoff game entering the season finale, so former coach Marty Schottenheimer decided to sit Tomlinson that Sunday. Tomlinson, who could have used the rest after dealing with a strained groin much of the year, didn't like the decision. Most people thought it was because he needed only one more score to tie the league record of 13 consecutive games with a rushing touchdown, but the reality is that he was more concerned with the history books showing he played only 15 games instead of the 16 that constitute a full season. His boyhood idol was Walter Payton, and one of the things he admired about the former Chicago Bears star was his toughness and durability.
• In 2005, Tomlinson played the final four-plus games with a cracked rib. Going into the season finale, against Denver, the Chargers already had been eliminated from playoff consideration. There was no reason for Tomlinson to be on the field. But there he was.

Over the past few years, Tomlinson has stressed that his only remaining athletic goal is to win a Super Bowl. He has won a league MVP award and two rushing titles. He has set numerous league scoring records. But the one thing he lacks is a championship, and last Sunday he was so close to getting a shot at one that took the field in the conference final even though his knee wasn't totally right. Even in warmups he noticed that he lacked the burst that has signified so many of his touchdowns and big runs.
But he wanted to give it a go, and he did for two series -- until he realized that he couldn't get to the holes he saw opening before him. According to coach Norv Turner, Tomlinson then told the training staff that he didn't have the "burst" to get into space. Turner determined that he would not have Tomlinson the rest of the game, but the team informed the media that Tomlinson might return, perhaps hoping to keep the Patriots guessing.
"Maybe he could have been a decoy on a play," Turner said.

The strategy of deception was understandable, but the person who paid for it was Tomlinson. The team should have said right away that Tomlinson was out, that way there would not have been the second-guessing and speculation. Instead, the man's character has been questioned.

"I always felt like this," Davis said. "You can question my playing ability. You can kill me in the media for how I'm playing. But never question my integrity or my heart. And when they started taking shots at my character, that I wasn't tough enough when I was trying to come back from knee problems, it was like, 'Hold up, man. You have no clue what I'm going through. Nobody wants to play more than me.' Nobody wants to be in that game more than L.T. But you're either able or you're unable. Then you have people say, 'Well, go in there and give it a try.' Sometimes that's not the best answer for your team. If I'm in the game and I'm hobbling, if I can't explode, if I'm turning potential 10-yard runs into 2-yard runs, what good is it?

"It is a huge difference if you cannot perform to the level that you're capable of performing at. We don't need a lame L.T. We need a healthy, able L.T. The Chargers didn't have that. No one should be questioning him. This man has shown he's as tough as they come."
 
I still think the point LdT is getting most flak for is his demeanor while sitting on the bench. If he can't play, so be it...then the 90% assessment was either wrong or intentional misinformation to throw the Pats off, but once you're ruled out, at least cheer your teammates on.

What Davis said :
People say, 'Why wasn't he up talking to Turner or speaking to the running backs trying to give people insight on what he saw from the sideline and trying to encourage people? That's not L.T.'s role. L.T. has been a leader because he's been doing it on the field.
thats all well and good, he doesn't necessarily have to lend insight, but sitting and sulking with his dark visor on (and there were many many shots of him, and he never wavered from the spot on the bench or posture, and that was confirmed by folks in the stands, he sat there the entire time) makes him look like a baby who doesn't have his teammates' backs...not a good image.
At least pay attention and cheer your comrades on.
 
Kinsa said:
"People say, 'Why wasn't he up talking to Turner or speaking to the running backs trying to give people insight on what he saw from the sideline and trying to encourage people? That's not L.T.'s role.

this is the key statement in the entire article and in my entire argument. if you're the best player on the team, it IS your role, wether you like it or not.

so even if he was absolutely unable to go... he still let his team down. when you put yourself out there as the face of the franchise... call out other teams and coaches over what you feel was them being disrespectful... that makes you the leader of the team. act like it.
 
http://www.yourfaceisasportsblog.com/2008/01/eli-manninglegend-in-making.html

So there's this quarterback, right? He's from the South, and he becomes a star in the SEC. There's a lot of hype about him coming out of college, and after a lot of fanfare, he winds up in the Big Apple, where he's expecting to revive a failing team.

Immediately, there are problems: the media is all over him, a lot of his teammates don't like him, and the fans...oh, the fans. Every week there are questions about his ability, his maturity, and, more than anything else, his ability to be a leader of men.

And things aren't going great on the field, either, for the first few seasons. A great performance is followed up by a terrible one. He leads the league in interceptions twice in his first three seasons. Coming into his fourth season, a lot of people have had enough, and even his supporters are starting to question him.

Then, something happens in his fourth season. But not at first - for most of the season, it's the same problems as before. But, somehow, when his team needs big performances late, he gives it to them. Then, the playoffs come and he's brilliant - almost a different quarterback. The two-headed monster at running back is working, and he's the one pulling the strings. There's a confidence in his gaze and his stride that no one has ever seen before. His teammates see this and feed off of it - suddenly, he's their guy, and they'll run through walls for him.

And so he leads his team into the Super Bowl, where he faces unbelievable odds, against a seemingly invincible coach. And you know what? He wins that game, and in doing so becomes a legend.

Who am I talking about? If you said "Eli Manning," go stab yourself in the face with an ice pick. He hasn't led the league in INTs twice - just this season. I'm talking about Broadway Joe himself.

Yes, I'm comparing this guy:

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...to this guy:

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...and I'm aware of how insane that seems. But the facts are the facts, and the similarities between Eli Manning as he prepares for the Super Bowl and Joe Namath ahead of Super Bowl III are kind of eerie. Look at their numbers through their first four seasons:

Namath: 55 G, 50.0 Pct., 12,753 YD, 78 TD, 87 INT
E. Manning: 57 G, 54.7 Pct., 11,385 YD, 77 TD, 64 INT

:ohmy:

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I found the following Super Bowl prop bets online:

Will the Patriots score in every quarter?

Betonline.com Yes +140
Thegreek.com No +100

Will the Giants score in every quarter?

Betonline.com Yes +220
Thegreek.com No -155

The jersey # of the first player to score

Betonline.com Odd -280
Thegreek.com Even +380

I like free monies.
 
The immutable insanity of ‘Iggles’ fans is legendary
By Ed Hardiman
Philidelphia Eagles Fans


They are legends passed from father to son across the NFL. The bogeymen of football. They pelt Santa with snowballs. They cheer when other team’s players get injured. Eagles fans: Love them or hate them, they are the Cadillac of NFL fans.

You don’t wear another team’s jersey to Lincoln Financial Field. If you do, Eagles fans heckle it off your back or dump perfectly warm $8 beers on you. They have ushers repeatedly check your ticket until you get the hint and move to another seat, preferably in another stadium. When you walk through the parking lot, the tailgaters’ roar drops to a whisper as you pass. The hair on the back of your neck stands the entire game.

I was born and raised in Philadelphia, I assume every stadium has a 700 level — the Philly equivalent of “Lord of the Flies” with beer — and if you lack common sense and insist on wearing the opposing team’s colors, you deserve the world-class beat-down coming your way.

In 1983 Chief Zee, the unofficial Redskins mascot, went to Philadelphia’s Veterans Stadium for a “Monday Night Football” game dressed in full Indian regalia. He left stripped to his underwear, with a smashed eye and a broken leg.

The following season, the Eagles invited him back to apologize. Eagles fans abused him again. One old lady told him he had a lot of nerve going up there, threw her drink in his face and said, “We mugged the guy who dressed like that last year!”

December 15, 1968: Frank Olivo wears a Santa suit to the last Eagles home game. The Eagles ask him to replace a hired Santa stranded by a snowstorm. Olivo runs downfield while boos and a fusillade of snowballs erupt from a crowd of 54,535. It is no big deal. Local sports writers ignore it, but Howard Cosell broadcasts it on his national sports show. An urban legend is born. Eagles fans: They boo Santa Claus.

December 10, 1989: After accusing the Eagles of putting bounties on his players, Dallas Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson is pelted with snowballs by fans, and police must escort him out of Veterans Stadium. One of the alleged participants is rabid Eagles fan and current governor of Pennsylvania, Ed Rendell.

October 10, 1999: Michael Irvin suffers a career-ending injury and is carted off to the cheers of a minority of Eagles fans at the Vet. ESPN’s Rich Eisen characterizes it as 66,000 screaming fans reaching a crescendo as the ambulance leaves. The number of cheering fans grows with every succeeding year.

Iggles fans, as it’s spelled by those who know, will never change. They are immutable. In 2005, ESPN's Brian Murphy called Eagles fans "the most neurotic, insane, comedic group of fans you will ever see outside of a 'Cops' episode." Thanks Brian, I couldn’t have said it any better.
 
I can't tell if that guy was talking about how exxagerated they all are (which would be true) or if he was honestly coming at Philly fans.

Either way, it has been exxagerated, the nuts are the same minority of nuts every team has, and I wasn't at any of those games.

Sue me.
 
Dude, wikipedia says Brett Favre has a small penis. MUST POST ARTICLE.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nf...e-fact-Brett-and-his-Lambeau-Lo?urn=nfl,62948

I don't know about the accuracy of the claims regarding the size of Brett's little Lambeau Log, but I would dispute that it's a well-known fact. I've watched a lot of John Madden-called games, and read a ton of Peter King columns, and never once has either of them mentioned it.

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This, my friends, is how you pass the time during the week before the Super Bowl.
 
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