MLB 2010 Part 4 - October

[MrPryck2U]

I'd guess 3/60. There isn't another team who would pay him even half of that, though.

Yes, I would say this is a unique negotiation for both sides. Jeter just came off a sub standard season, so his numbers don't reinforce getting a raise. The Yanks, on the other hand, want to show Jeter how much he means or has meant to the organization, but don't want to overpay him too much. There's really no leverage for Jeter here except for all that he has accomplished as a Yankee and his tremendous popularity with fans.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

as the lone person here defending jeter's fugazi golden glove, allow me to say that giving derek jeter 20 mil per is absolutely ridiculous.

the yankees should call his bluff. nobody else will give him anywhere near that. 3 years, 36 million. tell him to find a better deal than that.

 

[MrPryck2U]

Seeing as how Jeter has been reasonably healthy throughout his career, I could see him getting a 3 year deal with perhaps an option for a 4th. Jorge Posada will be in the last year of his deal in 2011. My guess says that, unless Jorge has a stellar season, 2011 will be his last year before he retires. I don't see the Yanks offering Jorge a multi year deal for 2012 and beyond. How does Jeter fit into this? Jorge will be the Yanks' primary DH in 2011. I would think by 2012, Jeter would be DHing a lot more and playing shortstop perhaps a lot less. This would be, of course, contingent upon the Yanks having a capable shortstop/infielder in their farm system to take over for Jeter if eventually his playing time at short is greatly decreased or indeed ended. By 2013/14, Jeter could be a full time DH in the manner of say Paul Molitor back in the early 90's with the Blue Jays. Molitor was a hitting machine and being the Jays full time DH helped him stay healthier when he was in his late 30's. The Yanks and Jeter could only hope. Now, obviously, this is just wishful thinking. Hopefully, the Yanks and Jeter come to terms in a timely fashion.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

if jeter's DHing in 2012, where's gimp hip a-rod playing?

 

[Hewson]

if jeter's DHing in 2012, where's gimp hip a-rod playing?

Shortstop, and winning a gold glove of course.

 

[MrPryck2U]

if jeter's DHing in 2012, where's gimp hip a-rod playing?

Hell, they can take turns DHing! Moving players around is a Girardi specialty.

 

[gump]

Buster Posey and Neftali Feliz won the Rookie of the Year.

I think Heyward was more deserving. Can't disagree with Feliz over Jackson, though.

 

[PhilsFan]

Why was Heyward more deserving than Posey? I thought they got that one right.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

i second that.

 

[gump]

I looked at the stats and it's actually much closer than I thought, maybe I was overrating Heyward due to his hot start. For what it's worth, Fangraphs has Heyward worth 5 WAR versus 3.9 for Posey (but Heyward played much more than Posey). The other stats are actually very close, so I retract my original point.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

posey also played a much harder position

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Posey played something like 35 less games than Heyward and put up similar power stats.

And Posey's got him beat in OPS and batting average. The latter he has him beat easily.

I didn't get to watch either player all that much, so I don't really know. But just looking at the stats, to me it clearly should have been Posey.

 

[PhilsFan]

posey also played a much harder position

This is the key for me. Posey not only put up better numbers, but was a big impact player at catcher.

 

[Hewson]

Plus he's named after a flower.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Plus he's named after a flower.

And a former world heavyweight boxing champion.

 

[the tourist]

and this guy:

 

[bono_212]

And this gal:

 

[gump]

Congrats to Doc Halliday for winning the NL Cy Young. What a dominating season he had.

 

[the tourist]

Why would a team that wants to rebuild from the ground up trade away a 23 year old with massive upside? I don't understand Towers' logic here, I guess.

 

[gump]

I don't get it either. Maybe they are afraid of injury risks? Still crazy, Upton could be a guy to build your team around.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

 

[bono_212]

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[GirlsAloudFan]

Speechless?

 

[Hewson]

Has anyone seen how the football field fits into Wrigley?
Goal post bolted to outfield wall...literally 6 inches between back line of endzone and brick (now padded) outfield wall....somebody's gonna get whomped by that wall.

 

[MrPryck2U]

Has anyone seen how the football field fits into Wrigley?
Goal post bolted to outfield wall...literally 6 inches between back line of endzone and brick (now padded) outfield wall....somebody's gonna get whomped by that wall.

Yes, a very obvious reminder of why Da Bears moved to Soldier Field. Wrigley Field ain't a football stadium.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

i can't wait for the notre dame-army game to come down to a last second field goal with the kicker having to look right into a gynormous fucking video screen showing himself about to choke.

 

[Hewson]

Now I don't buy into curses etc., but one has to wonder with the Cubs factor and the poster of Persa...and then bam, ruptured achilles.

 

[BoMac]

Has anyone seen how the football field fits into Wrigley?
Goal post bolted to outfield wall...literally 6 inches between back line of endzone and brick (now padded) outfield wall....somebody's gonna get whomped by that wall.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

i don't know what's nuttier... the goalposts built into the brick wall, or the ivy-colored padding.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

What really sucks about the game is that it could have been pretty fucking meaningful for us, I mean we can still get bowl eligible with a win, but the last two weeks have been just gutbusting heartbreakers. First the fucking 198-195 shootout against Michigan and then a total 4th quarter fuck up against Minnesota.

Still looking forward to it. We should fuck 'em up, and, yeah, hopefully a Wildcat gets plastered up against one of those walls.

Wow, I just realized this is not the college football thread.

Go White Sox!