cybersyd
The Fly
sraphim said:
ps: hey cybersyd, are you from Italy perhaps?
yesss sir!
btw
have a look at Sbruty's choreography during Sometimes... ...heartstopping moment!!!
http://www.u2net.it/download/video/sometimes.zip
sraphim said:
ps: hey cybersyd, are you from Italy perhaps?
Popmartijn said:
After With Or Without You they just kept singing
sraphim said:
and what about
all I want is... YOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
all I want is... YOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
all I want is... YOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
....
that seemed to go on forever...
sraphim said:
alright I'm OFFICIALLY SICK of that line! I've read it about THOUSAND of times before, and now my question is... what the hell have we got to do with that??
that was their decision... doesn't mean they didn't have fans in Italy back then... quite the opposite actually!
you cannot consider Dutch people more loyal, or more deserving, just because of that... I'd expect better of you, really....
sraphim said:well then... piacere!! I'm from Italy too ]
so, were you in SanSiro? 20/21 or both? I was there, first row in front of the B-stage on the right side (Adam's )
ps: I feel stupid. couldn't we just talk in Italian??
I don't know who brought Italy vs. Holland in to this, because that was not my point at all!Soulrock2 said:I agree. I also often wonder how many of those loyal Dutch fans were already visiting them in the early eighties. It seems like the Paradiso could hold 50.000 people if I have to believe everyone who claims to have been there from the beginning.
Neilz said:
Not fair to compare this pic imo...
sraphim said:@cybercyd (sorry non-Italian people... just a few lines, I promise)
io sono di Bordighera!! il 20 ero in prima fila davanti al palchetto Adam, il 21 seconda fila Edge, e il 23 in Curva Nord (una fortuna visti i casini che poi sono successi...) la prossima tappa è Nizza, che possiamo considerare una quarta data italiana considerando il numero spropositato di Italiani che ci andranno... [/B]
Than who posted these pictures to give us a view of the crowd? I guess these shows can't be compared at all? Still.. IMO; Amsterdam looked perfect for a DVD, even though no special arrangements has been made to do so...cybersyd said:In fact not fair to compare these picture... ...Milan pictures were taken before the sun went down about 60 min before the gig...
U2mixer said:I'm only posting here to say "Nice photo"...
Dusty Bottoms said:I don't like how small the Milan GA area is.
The Amsterdam photos are more impressive because the GA area is a lot longer, and looks like a lot more people.
But it doesn't really matter too much either way.
cybersyd said:
Yes it does!! because with the stage built along the long side of the field the people (included those on the grandstand : ) were a lot nearer to the band than usual.
Soulrock2 said:U2 had a hard time to sell out Feyenoord Stadium twice in 1997. You could easily get tix on the day of the show in 1997.
Is it that hard to understand? I'm not promoting Amsterdam here you know! If I had the feeling that Croke was perfect for the DVD, then this topic would have been Croke vs. Milan... I don't know where you got the feeling that I'm being patriotic, cause that is not my intention at all!sraphim said:just stop this non-sense about Amsterdam being better, you will always have someone (me in this case ) telling you "I think Milan was better instead". what's the point of starting a thread like this one, I wonder? neither of us saw both concerts, how could we compare? ...BY PICTURES??
c'mon... I KNOW you're smarter than that
About your first comment... You're right about that... U2 favoured Milan, and I'm glad for the Italian's they did... I really am! But I'm curious how they feel about it now though... But I've had enough of this discussion too by now... A lot of people seem to misread me and don't understand my intentions.. So...Soulrock2 said:@Neilz: YOU are obviously the one who cannot stop this argument about Amsterdam vs Milan. Good for you that you like the Amsterdam pcitures better. Obviously U2 favoured Milan, and I'm glad they did.
So the answer to your question: YES.
P.S. I'm Dutch and I'm sick and tired about hearing how loud and loyal the Dutch crowd is. Just look at the drop in numbers between Zooropa and Popmart. Numbers don't lie. U2 had a hard time to sell out Feyenoord Stadium twice in 1997. You could easily get tix on the day of the show in 1997. U2 played in front of 150.000 in Italy and also another gig in Rome I believe. So maybe it's time to realize the Dutch crowd is not THAT loyal.
right neil simple way of ending this, did you go to milan?Neilz said:
Is it that hard to understand? I'm not promoting Amsterdam here you know! If I had the feeling that Croke was perfect for the DVD, then this topic would have been Croke vs. Milan... I don't know where you got the feeling that I'm being patriotic, cause that is not my intention at all!
Fact is that from what I've seen, the combination venue+crowd+vertigo looks better in the Amsterdam situation IMO... It has nothing to do with me being Dutch! I'm man enough to admit that Milan worked better if I had that feeling you know! But I don't, I think Vertigo Amsterdam looked the best of the whole European tour so far.. And that's NOT because I'm Dutch!
About your first comment... You're right about that... U2 favoured Milan, and I'm glad for the Italian's they did... I really am! But I'm curious how they feel about it now though... But I've had enough of this discussion too by now... A lot of people seem to misread me and don't understand my intentions.. So...
About your second part... I hate it too when people bring up how loud and loyal the Dutch crowds are... Elevation sucked (from what I've heard, I went to Cologne) and Popmart sold out, but at the gates... But you're forgetting that Holland is the smallest country that U2 tours... So 2+ shows at every gig sold out isn't nothing... I do agree though that it's lame to keep bringing up U2 connection with Holland... But the same goes for the Italians of course...
And why does that matter?KUEFC09U2 said:right neil simple way of ending this, did you go to milan?
Neilz said:
But I'm curious how they feel about it now though...
because your basing your opinion that the DVD should have been shot in amsterdam, because a)it looked better in the pictures and b) the crowd,Neilz said:
And why does that matter?
I don't care what the show was like (this too I've said before!)... I'm not talkting about setlitsts or the form of the band... I'm talking about visuals... So a) yes, I'm judging by pictures which show looked better... that's the beautiful thing about pictures and b) I'm basing by opinion about how the crowd looked, not about which crowd is better...KUEFC09U2 said:because your basing your opinion that the DVD should have been shot in amsterdam, because a)it looked better in the pictures and b) the crowd,
now if you werent at milan how would you know what the show was even like? all we have seen is a few pictures
No really... Easy way to end this! Why does it matter if I've been to the Milan shows... Have you been to the Amsterdam shows?sraphim said:ok, just stick to your idea then. you'll change your mind when the dvd's out