anitram said:
You are talking about Sikhs.
No I mean like in Afghanistan under the Taliban, they forced men to wear beards and wear turbans, or some kind of headscarves. Young boys in school were in trouble if they didn't wear theirs.
anitram said:
You are talking about Sikhs.
LivLuvAndBootlegMusic said:Sort of off-topic, but do women ever wear those garments partially b/c like in Iraq and such, they live in a hot, dry, dusty climate? Covering yourself is good when in the baking heat, and I bet wearing a scarf around your mouth keeps the dust out. I was just thinking this b/c I'm going to Africa in January and they told us it's hot and dusty and it would irritate our eyes. Just a thought...
Kieran McConville said:None of this should be interpreted as me implying the culture is ideal by my standards (we have our own problems too).
But, the mere fact I don't like something is no reason to, well, invade.
U2Kitten said:
Then why does the woman who comes in my grocery store in VA still dress that way all year round?
LivLuvAndBootlegMusic said:I agree with Keiran. I'd would be nice if we had some Muslim women here to give us better insight.
I don't know any Muslim families so my only knowledge of their religion and culture is from college history courses. And from what we learned, western peoples unfamiliar with Islam tend to speculate and base assumptions on the extreme cases we see in the news.
I don't know why a Muslim woman would wear a scarf to the grocery store. Maybe she just wants to; it's not my place to speculate. Society is not always "right" when it comes to one's religion. For her religion, it's tradition for women to wear those scarves, even though American society finds that oppressive and impractical. My religion shuns dressing in revealing, trashy clothing, but society and pop-culture LOVES that kind of stuff so......
Angela Harlem said:I dont really understand what this has to do with extremists. Maybe I'm missing something. All I complained about was how the culture in general treats women. Not extremists. And as for not liking them much, I have no opinion on 'them' any more than I do on any other group. Ie, none. Screw PC. The way the religion is interpreted is beyond fucked. The Prophet doesn't encourage the resulting treatment of women, yet they're still second class.
verte76 said:The problem in the non-Islamic world is with people who indict *all* Muslims for the misdeeds of some. This isn't fair.
verte76 said:The prophet Mohammed himself was for equal rights for women.
verte76 said:The problem in the non-Islamic world is with people who indict *all* Muslims for the misdeeds of some. This isn't fair.
AcrobatMan said:
howmany wives did he have ? does he advocate ladies to that many husbands ?
iacrobat said:
Times change.
AcrobatMan said:
true time changes... but somethings just refuse to
howmany wives did he have ? does he advocate ladies to that many husbands ?
anitram said:
I'm a little bit fuzzy on the Koran - it's been some years since I took a class on some of this, but I believe that historically, Muhammad said that men should take on extra wives, because it was a time of conquering, and many women were left as widows. He preached taking on these women as wives, and treating them and their children equally under the law.
iacrobat said:
WTF?? You were judging a man who lived 1400 years ago with modern western cultural norms.
What does this mean?
verte76 said:Yes, and remember, it was *impossible* for a widow to support herself in those days. They had to be either taken in or starve. So men marrying widows was actually the decent thing to do.
nbcrusader said:
In the Judeo-Christian tradition, society was to take care of widows (not conditioned on being taken in by a man), giving younger widows the freedom to re-marry.
AcrobatMan said:you just misunderstood..
ask urself, did you infer correctly ? no need to get angry..
come on
AcrobatMan
FizzingWhizzbees said:
Could you please explain what exactly you did mean by that comment? I was curious about what you were saying but since iacrobat already asked I didn't bother posting again.
AcrobatMan said:
clearly my statement was misunderstood. i wasnt judging anyone.
i dont need to ..