rihannsu said:
Yeah, that's all fine and good Axver, but the problem is that I never seem to hear very much about what you DO like. I'm not going to say that you never post anything positive but in my experience the overall tone of your posts seems to be negative, and sometimes downright demeaning. You talk incessantly about what you DON'T like but even when asked (as in a recent thread) you don't really say specifically what you DO like.
I sincerely haven't a clue which thread you're referring to in the last sentence I quoted. And really, have you been paying that little attention to my posts? I guarantee you that if you ask just about anybody who's ever hung out in EYKIW "who's the biggest fan of the Lovetown Tour?", I'd be in the top five. Same goes if you replace "Lovetown Tour" with The Unforgettable Fire album, One Tree Hill, the pre-Boy era, Passengers, and U2 setlists in general. And I was the lead poster in that epic Heartland Appreciation Thread that ran to 800+ posts. It's no secret that when I like something, I
really like something.
Also, if they feel betrayed by the band then it makes even less sense to me that they would stick around.
I should say I wasn't referring to myself with that comment. I don't think you were implying that I was, but I feel I should make that clear. I was with the other two, but I think if somebody feels betrayed, they invested just a bit too much emotion in a band they've never truly met.
Also, for me, music is much more about what it makes me feel than any particular sound or formula. From the beginning the band seems to have that idea as well.
Don't let the label of "prog fan" fool you - I agree entirely. Some of the best prog, technically speaking, is just really bloody boring. Sure, I'm blown away by the skill of the Behold The Arctopus guys, but I'm not exactly in a hurry to play Sensory Amusia.
It's just that, well, lately U2 haven't made me feel much. I think their music has become too formulaic for comfort. You don't share that opinion and that's cool. But to me ... well, I Will Follow is still a storming and electrifying track, while I would not be sad if I never heard Vertigo ever again.
What U2 songs have the biggest effect on you emotionally? What moves you about the music? Are you in any way touched by the music on the last two albums? I'd really like to know.
Alright ...
1. One Tree Hill, no doubt. The last minute of the 26 December 1989 performance is the most moving minute of music I've ever heard. And I'm not a guy who cries during a concert, but the performance on 25/11/2006 ... that was something else. Utoo and miracledrug83 can attest to how excited and overcome I was both nights it was played in Auckland. Another one is Bad - bono_man2002 and Screendoor can attest to my responses to that in Melbourne and Boston respectively. Bad has moved me like no other song since I was 10. Heartland and ASOH give me tingles. Others? 11 O'clock Tick Tock, The Unforgettable Fire, Slug, Bass Trap, Gloria.
2. What moves me about the music? That question's too hard to answer. Some intangible quantity, some emotional reaction. There's good music, there's great music, and then there are my five star songs/albums. I can't quite explain what it is about the five star material that lifts it into that league, but they al affect me similarly, whether it's U2's One Tree Hill or The Shadows' Wonderful Land or Agalloch's In The Shadow Of Our Pale Companion. I suppose a completely transcendent atmosphere, well-written and moving lyrics (if present), and an effortless sincerity oozing out of the music.
3. Yes. Even ATYCLB in places. I truly hate ATYCLB as an album; I know that's blunt but I don't know how else to say it. But that said, WILATW's lyrics are powerful, Kite is beautiful especially live, Walk On is moving despite its lyrical cliches, and Grace ... I'm a bit put off by a lot of religion these days (let's just say I've had some bad experiences), but it's such a beautiful and eloquent spiritual expression.
As for HTDAAB, COBL's very powerful - though I only listen to it live nowadays as the mixing makes me cringe on the studio version. It's a special song in my life and my friend's. And One Step Closer doesn't get the credit it deserves. I'm not sure anything else on the album really touched me, but there are some other good songs and I think over half of the album is worthwhile.