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Should U2 fans email Apple to increase the amount they
give to the Red Campaign ?
give to the Red Campaign ?
J_NP said:
1- Apple bein on it is great
2- The Fact that are the ipods on it , it's just brilliant
3- 10 from 199 , it's like 5% off
The Disciple said:NO. B glad they're participating, period.
U2Man said:I'm sorry, but how much Apple donates to the RED campaign is Apple's decision and only Apple's decision.
U2Man said:The Gap is only donating 50% from their sales of RED products.
There's no way Apple could donate 50% of the sales from iPods, not even if they wanted to.
Also, it is quite funny how easily Gap has improved their image now, apparently. Has anyone read Naomi Klein's No Logo? Her description of the way The Gap has made their money isn't nice at all, I tell you. Slave factories all over South East Asia, children down to the age of eight working there, the workers are not allowed to leave the factory, payment that they cannot even pay their food with...
Have you guys considered that The Gap is doing this because they have an image problem that Apple doesn't have?
U2Man said:That's the idea of the Red campaign, so you cannot blame any of these companies. If you think their agenda is way too palpable, you can choose not to buy their products. Any other kind of attempt at intervening in their decision process is silly, imo.
U2Man said:also, since this is a much wider discussion that has nothing to do with technical issues, i think this thread should be moved back, or maybe to FYM.
verte76 said:I'm just glad that Apple is participating.
ntalwar said:
They should - it adds to their bottom line.
U2Man said:Also, it is quite funny how easily Gap has improved their image now, apparently. Has anyone read Naomi Klein's No Logo? Her description of the way The Gap has made their money isn't nice at all, I tell you. Slave factories all over South East Asia, children down to the age of eight working there, the workers are not allowed to leave the factory, payment that they cannot even pay their food with...
redhotswami said:
Okay good I'm glad someone else remember this. I was really thrown when I found out GAP was participating, (LOVE No Logo, btw). I remember the boycotts and protests quite well. I haven't shopped there in ages.
But I guess I can't criticize them for wanting to change their ways.
LivLuvAndBootlegMusic said:
Right. Personally, I am fine with them contributing "only" $10 per iPod. The POINT of (RED) was to establish a model that proves you CAN be profitable while still being charitable and practicing fair trade.
ntalwar said:
But RED didn't necessarily pioneer that approach. 3M has had the campaign with pink notes for breast cancer research for example. Although they donate a portion of sales, it has increased the bottom line for 3M quite a bit. $10 is better than nothing, but the issue I have with it is that they receive more than that amount back in free advertising, a free Bono endorsement (any company would pay millions for that), and increased iPod/accessory sales, while trying to establish a caring, charitable image. Some have asked why consumers don't just donate to the charity. The same should be asked of the corportations - why they need to tie their contributions to associations with hip celebrities and product sales.
ntalwar said:
They should - it adds to their bottom line.
ntalwar said:
But RED didn't necessarily pioneer that approach. 3M has had the campaign with pink notes for breast cancer research for example. Although they donate a portion of sales, it has increased the bottom line for 3M quite a bit. $10 is better than nothing, but the issue I have with it is that they receive more than that amount back in free advertising, a free Bono endorsement (any company would pay millions for that), and increased iPod/accessory sales, while trying to establish a caring, charitable image. Some have asked why consumers don't just donate to the charity. The same should be asked of the corportations - why they need to tie their contributions to associations with hip celebrities and product sales.