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Said last night on the news the NAACP has declared Vick is 'not a victim' and should take responsibilty for his actions.
MrsSpringsteen said:The plea is all about the NFL personal conduct policy, and if he is allowed to do it that way that's just a joke in my opinion.
BonoManiac said:According to ESPN Radio, Vick will plea on Monday that he was present when the dogs were killed but didn't participate in the killing and didn't gamble on the fighting itself.
This seems to contradict the testimony of the three other defendants. So, it will be interesting to see how this will all play out.
Michael Vick filed his plea agreement in federal court Friday admitting to conspiracy in a dogfighting ring and helping kill pit bulls. He denied ever betting on the fights, only bankrolling them. . .
According to the statement, Vick also was involved with the others in killing six to eight dogs that did not perform well in testing sessions last April. The dogs were executed by drowning or hanging.
"Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts" of Vick and two of the co-defendants, Phillips and Peace, the statement said.
kellyahern said:I don't know if I find it sad, hilarious, or pathetic that in Michael Vick's mind gambling is worse than killing dogs .
I guess it all boils down to the issue that admitting to gambling is more of a problem if he wants to return to the NFL someday. That's just nuts.
shart1780 said:As far as I know, dog fighting isn't a huge thing in this country.
Liesje said:
Sorry, you don't know much (on this) then. Dog fighting is HUGE. 1 out of 5 school kids in the Chicago area has participated in dog fighting.
tpsreports2424 said:1 out of 5????? No way, maybe 1-30 kids...No way can be out of 5, I know wayyy to much kids in the chicago area and im %110 positive they dont dog fight
tpsreports2424 said:
1 out of 5????? No way, maybe 1-30 kids...No way can be out of 5, I know wayyy to much kids in the chicago area and im %110 positive they dont dog fight
Liesje said:
Sorry, you don't know much (on this) then. Dog fighting is HUGE. 1 out of 5 school kids in the Chicago area has participated in dog fighting.
Liesje said:
Yes, 1 of 5. Say you know 30 kids that don't dog fight....there are schools where everyone in the class is into dog fighting! It just depends on who you know, where you grew up.....but that was the point of the study, to show that it is HUGE and the only people that think it's not are people living in nice neighborhoods who have dogs as spoiled family pets, but that's not reality for the majority of people in this country.
Whoopi Goldberg Defends Vick
NEW YORK -- Whoopi Goldberg started her stint on ABC's "The View" Tuesday by coming to the defense of convicted felon Michael Vick.
Just 15 minutes into the show she brought up Vick's conviction on dogfighting charges.
"You know from his background this is not an unusual thing for where he comes from," said Goldberg."There are certain things that are indicative to certain parts of our country."
Co-host Joy Behar seemed shocked at Goldberg's statements.
"How about dog torture and dog murdering," Behar asked.
"Unfortunately it's part of the thing," Goldberg replied. "You're a dog lover. For a lot of people dogs are sport," she added.
Behar continued to shake her head in disgust.Goldberg said it seemed to her that it took a while for Vick to realize that the charges against him were serious.
"It seemed like a light went off in his head when he realized that this was something the entire country really didn't appreciated, didn't like," Goldberg said, referring to Vick's guilty plea.
She said if the case had involved somebody from New York City her feelings would have been different.
Goldberg pointed out that Vick was raised in the South.
"This is part of his cultural upbringing," said Goldberg.
Co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck said she was encouraged by the NFL suspending Vick indefinitely.
But Goldberg continued to defend Vick saying "This is a kid who comes from a culture when this is not questioned."
It was Goldberg's first day moderating the talk show. She took over from Rosie O'Donnell who quit the show earlier this year after feuds with Donald Trump and Hasselbeck.
Last month Vick entered a guilty plea in federal court in Richmond, Virginia
In his written plea, Vick admitted helping kill six to eight pit bulls and supplying money for gambling on the fights.
Vick will be sentenced on the dogfighting charges in December. The federal sentencing guideline projects a year to 18 months, but the judge can impose up to the five-year maximum.
Vick and three co-defendants, Purnell Peace of Virginia Beach, Quanis Phillips of Atlanta and Tony Taylor of Hampton all pleaded guilty to interstate dogfighting conspiracy charges.
The details outlined in the indictment and other court papers fueled a public backlash against Vick and cost him several lucrative endorsement deals, even before he agreed to plead guilty.
The case began in late April when authorities conducting a drug investigation of Vick's cousin raided the former Virginia Tech star's rural Surry County property and seized dozens of dogs, some injured, and equipment commonly used in dogfighting.
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