mikal
Blue Crack Addict
Who are you, the class clown?
just playing
giggity.
Who are you, the class clown?
just playing
Which is exactly the state of the character. What he is saying is that he doesn't give a damn about how complicated the world seems, he is happy in his own personal pleasure. And that gets more extreme in Boots. What he is sensually obsessed with is his own life, not necessarily... well, as was said earlier, Vegas, coke, and strippers.
He seems like he cares a lot actually about the world. Why is he trying to convince us of something? Why is he telling us to find the light in the darkness? If he was preaching about hedonism he'd say just do what you find pleasurable. He wouldn't say every beauty needs to go out with an idiot. He'd say every beauty should go out with whomever pleases them...period. He wouldn't say every sweet tooth needs a little hit. He'd say take as many hits as you need. He wouldn't be talking about change of heart. He'd say do what your heart craves most. And he wouldn't be talking about going crazy if he doesn't go crazy...he'd just go crazy..period. It's an interesting concept, but Bono really didn't do it justice. He didn't even scratch the surface. Instead of preaching about hedonism, he's just saying "be optimistic and try to see the good in the bad"...which is a far cry from saying "forget the world, just selfishly fulfill your desires"
He's not preaching about hedonism. Hedonists don't preach. He's being a hedonist.
Bono's not dictating anything in the song. It's simply there. The hedonist is simply there. The character simply is what is. Bono himself is neither positive nor negative. The character is optimistic towards his life, and his relationships (hence the word us - people close to him). He is shutting out the world, and being as optimistic about the world as he can... his world, the world in his image, that he manufactures around him.
Anyway, this debate is utterly pointless to have, so I'll let you continue to labor under the delusion that Bono totally lied when describing what the song is about, and you can let me labor until my blind-sheep delusions that Bono always plans everything perfectly in advance.
i still can't believe Bono said that. i also think he's a hypocrite because he doesn't donate all of his earnings to Africa.
discuss.
I think some people need to realise that hedonism does not mean Vegas, coke and strippers.
Interesting, I find it to be one of the very few moments in recent U2 history where they made a good choice to be somewhat subtle for once.
In fact, maybe the one reason this songs works so much for me, is because they didn't go that obvious place.
Your Blue Room is similar, and doesn't have one of those big emotive crescendos either, what do you think of that song? Same reaction?
You all know how the media loves to take things out of context, and it's tabloid media we're talking about here.They're trying to manipulate that interview to make it soundl ike the band is blaming the fans. It's always amazing to see how quickly the fans are prepared to jump on the .
MOS on the other hand is clearly aiming to be albums all-embracing epic ballad. It's vying for a place alongside the likes of Bad, WOWY and One.
I will never understand this idea. Maybe Bad, but Bad doesn't belong in the same category as WOWY and One. WOWY and One are pure pop ballads through and through. MOS and Bad were never even trying to be pop ballads.
Oh...and one more thing... I also have been thinking about a comment Bono made about Eddie Vedder...about him sounding like "he really wants it"...which I take to mean that you can hear in EV new stuff that he isnt shunning the desire for popularity anymore. Hes got the fire in him to go all out again. I dont know, mb Bono is reflecting inwardly as well.
Pearl Jam are always hungry to ROCK YOUR ASS.
Ummm...
Nevermind.
and sound exactly the same...
and sound exactly the same...
i love Pearl Jam. they're one of my top 5 favorite bands of all time, and i even think the majority of their music sounds the same. actually, Riot Act is one of my favorites because i felt that they were going in a different direction.
so does "don't drop the soap" also apply now when listening to Pearl Jam?
I think starting with No Code, PJ started a disturbing trend of putting songs like Lukin on their albums and then we started to get Brain of J, World Wide Suicide, Got Some, Supersonic etc where PJ try and do punk and it doesn't really work. That part of PJ all sounds alike and I can see how some say it sounds the same. I love PJ, it's just unfortunate they've decided to do more of these songs as they get older instead of less.
It started with Spin the Black Circle, really.
And you're right, it has continued to get worse.
"we are so raw and punk, can you tell yet?"