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This is just so funny on so many levels. (Jick, you are joking, right?)
namkcuR said:Jick, dude, no. You have to go somewhere if you're to make a comeback. U2 never went anywhere. Despite the perception that POP got bad reviews everywhere and was a critical disaster, the truth is that it sold just fine(6 million copies I believe worldwide) and the tour sold very well. ATYCLB sold even more and the Elevation tour sold extrememly well. Now HTDAAB is selling at lightning speed and the tickets for the tour even faster. They are consistantly successful. The recent billboard nosedives you speak of are fictitious.
jick said:
the assortment of boos they received in the Macarena karaoke performance in Spain
Yahweh said:Also tour tickets started selling and sold out within the last 2 weeks so I expect a slight gain on the billboard charts this week due to that fact.
We want to sell out every venue that we play and leave that town or country with people thinking, oh, we couldn't get into that show, that band are still hot."
-- Paul McGuinness, on playing arenas on the Elevation Tour
Flying FuManchu said:to the Mullen Apology.
lazarus said:
Absolutely INCORRECT. I was around when that album came out, and they received some of the best reviews of their career. Even publications that were cold to them before were impressed by this album
There's nothing brave about taking cheap potshots against the band like that. It's petty, foolish, and in J's case, extremely redundant.
laz
Lancemc said:The qulity of the songs on POP has nothing to do with this discussion. The point is that POP was recieved quite coldly by most critics after its release, and the first leg of teh POPMART tour was less than spectalular.
doctorwho said:
...Jick correctly pointed out that "Pop" did have a fairly quick exit from the Billboard Top 200 albums chart.
...But when compared to past U2 albums, "Pop" sold poorly.
...Jick has an interesting theory,...
My main complaint is Jick's subtle suggestion that other band members are all talk and no action. Given how quiet Adam and Edge are, clearly he's referring to Bono. Admittedly, Bono is a hype machine - and perhaps deservedly so - but this is not unique for this album. Bono has talked this way for decades. And I don't feel it's all hype - I believe in Bono's mind, U2 do make "the mother of all rock songs". We fans may disagree, but this doesn't negate Bono's viewpoint.
More importantly though, Bono is ALL about action. DATA wouldn't exist if it weren't for Bono. Debt reduction wouldn't exist if it weren't for Bono. The world is talking about the AIDS epidemic - finally - and that's thanks to Bono. He is a force and this is because of his actions. He's not some hype machine talking to politicians to "feel good". He's doing the actual work and seeing what needs to be done. And his actions are in turn inspiring other very public figures to get involved and use their fame in a similar manner. While some of these artists may still be a bit disingenuous, Bono is not.
Larry's apology showed two things - that he probably is the main person involved in the more financial aspects of the tour and the website. This shouldn't be surprising as Larry was also responsible for T-shirts and souvenir sales on past tours. Also, this apology showed that U2 are beyond the $$ - they listen and care about the fans. They didn't have to do any of what they did. As they are, it shows class. I doubt any other artist would do the same.
So Jick, with your greedy Bono avatar and suggestions of "all talk no action", I think Larry's "two words" really are directed your way.
Headache in a Suitcase said:what about larry telling people like you to F off? i thought that was funny
Cheers,
H
namkcuR said:JiFurthermore, the notion that Mullen's apology was touching, let alone the most touching artist-to-fan apology in the history of rock'n'roll, is absurd and impossible to take seriously. It was a good apology that went a distance in comforting some fans concerning the ticket presale fiasco, that is all. Stop manufacturing this melodramatic drivel.
zooroper said:i don't really care what U2 do today or tommorow....they sold thyer inegrity by turning into a ''backstreet boys'' kinda band. after that, nothing will ever make them come back to my heart.
doctorwho said:
My main complaint is Jick's subtle suggestion that other band members are all talk and no action. Given how quiet Adam and Edge are, clearly he's referring to Bono. Admittedly, Bono is a hype machine - and perhaps deservedly so - but this is not unique for this album. Bono has talked this way for decades. And I don't feel it's all hype - I believe in Bono's mind, U2 do make "the mother of all rock songs". We fans may disagree, but this doesn't negate Bono's viewpoint.
More importantly though, Bono is ALL about action. DATA wouldn't exist if it weren't for Bono. Debt reduction wouldn't exist if it weren't for Bono. The world is talking about the AIDS epidemic - finally - and that's thanks to Bono. He is a force and this is because of his actions. He's not some hype machine talking to politicians to "feel good". He's doing the actual work and seeing what needs to be done. And his actions are in turn inspiring other very public figures to get involved and use their fame in a similar manner. While some of these artists may still be a bit disingenuous, Bono is not.
Therefore, I find Jick's post irrelevant. There's no need for U2 to "comeback". The album is still doing well on the charts and the sales are strong. The tour is already sold out. And this is just the beginning - the album isn't even 3 months old yet!