BostonAnne said:
Verte, it you still haven't seen the speeches try this:
Load up realplayer and click on file->open and paste in the below link.
Link:
rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/e111804_clinton.rm?mode=compact
(FYI - Bono & Edge come on at 1 hour 5 min.)
Stonewall - Bush Sr.'s speech on Clinton stuck out to me more than Bush Jr's. The whole thing was incredible!
Stonewall said:
A) Thanx for your sorta compliment re: my Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton observation/connection. I'm sure U heard Bill Clinton go out of his way the other evening and strongly compliment George Bush Jr. -- especially saying that prior to the election he publicly stated: "Why in these United States of America can't people like both President Bush and John Kerry?" That is very heavy, honest and humane and especially from a Democrat president, who is supposed to be supporting and praising only the Dem candidate. Of course, we know who the CLINTONS wanted to win. And, he did! :
diamond said:
Thanks for posting that link Anne!
I finally got to watch this.
I actually understood this. My argument was actually against society, and how we take all this "male dominance" way too far. I do understand where you're coming from, believe it or not. We aren't exactly "there yet" in society, and I don't know when the day will come.blueyedpoet said:'wannabee, i'm not suggesting that she should be feared because she is a woman and has power. i'm saying that she is feared because she is a woman and has power. what should be and what is are two different things. although i'd say, as a male, she shouldn't win cause she's ugly
I know where you're coming from. Nobody could count how many lives have been taken because of politics. Even if we tried, it would get too... political.verte76 said:This might sound strange since I'm posting in FYM but I'm actually sick of politics and I'm not reading any strictly political stuff these days.
Very few people didn't realize that THE CLINTONS didn't want KERRY to win. That was common sense strategy. Since the election, after KERRY, in fact, lost and HILLARY was thrust to the front of the Dem contenders for 2008, more people became aware of it. Thus, it is not "ridiculous" to believe something which (a) most people believe and (b) is a reality. Personally, with a Bachelor of Arts and a Master's Degree in political science, I have to tell U that I would not know how to make a "ridiculous" political analysis -- particularly one that is as clear as a glass of water.BostonAnne said:I think it is wonderful that Clinton enourages everyone to look beyond the Republican and Democratic labels to see the people behind them..... I don't agree with your statement that he WANTED Bush to win. That is ridiculous. He campaigned for Kerry....
Stonewall said:
CLINTON campaigned for KERRY?? That's news. Anne (from Boston), please. Very ironically, as everyone knows, BILL CLINTON was hospitalized before Labor Day, the crucial beginning of the real political campaign season. Annie (from KERRY's home state), the former President WJC had major, life-saving heart surgery! He was recovering not campaigning. Campaigned for KERRY? Mr. BILL wasn't even able. Oh, and Mrs.
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Aren't U Girlz glad that I livened up this holiday weekend Sunday afternoon? After all, November is the most political month of the year and don't we want to savour it right thru the 30th?U2Democrat said:Don't forget Mark Warner, Verte!
No, not insulting U but pointing out the facts that U are (a) from KERRY's homestate and (b) U are an avid JK supporter. Think about it, B.A., U don't really remember CLINTON actually campaigning for KERRY before his hospitalization, heart surgery, hospital stay, recovery, etc. -- do U? WJC, when asked repeatedly, said that he would "camp" for KERRY after Labor Day. Tink about it!BostonAnne said:Somehow, I feel that you are insulting me.
So you are saying that the months before his surgery didn't count? I followed the campaign and have never read anything related to your speculation. That's all it is - speculation.
Stonewall said:
U don't really remember CLINTON actually campaigning for KERRY before his hospitalization, heart surgery, hospital stay, recovery, etc. -- do U? WJC, when asked repeatedly, said that he would "camp" for KERRY after Labor Day. Tink about it!
U2Democrat said:mark the record....
i'll probably only say this once but....
i agree with stonewall.
there it's said.
Ooohh that's harsh. I've noticed U2Democrat does like to use lowercase.Stonewall said:Note: Just spell Stonewall w/ a capital "S". U can continue to "spell" democrat, kerry, teresa, dean, verte, boston, anne, edwards, pax, etc. in lower case/small letters, if U insist.
Stonewall said:P.S. Besides his wife, daughter, dog, cat and KERRY, who did Prez CLINTON make a strong point of praising at his recent library opening? No, not AL GORE! It was: President GEORGE W. BUSH, Jr.
I want to say a special word of thanks to Al Gore and to Tipper for the indispensable contribution that they made.
And I told Al today that this library won an international environmental award even though it's got a lot of glass because the solar panels and a lot of other improvements. We cut the energy usage here by 34 percent.
So, Al, thanks for the inspiration. And I'm still trying to measure up to the challenge you set for me so long ago.