Random Music Thread - CXII Mofo, it's Halloween, Change your avatar plz.

[djerdap]

Yeah violence begets violence. That's really deep.

The thing about The Wire is it never earns its sense of importance the way something like Mad Men does. The premise that poverty and violence are cycles is presented unapologetically and sometimes movingly, but it's not exactly a revelatory point unless you're a boot-straps Republican type.

You're really simplifying what the show is trying to tell. The show is trying to go into numerous reasons as to why the poverty and violence are in cycles - that fact is basically clear from the first scene of the series, so just depicting that is hardly the issue at hand.

Oh, and "violence begets violence" is pretty much missing the point - or is at best just a small part of why they chose to do it - as to why that particular ending for the character was depicted in such a way. Again, it's far more complex than just that. But there was a discussion in the TV thread about it so I wouldn't want to repeat myself.

 

[cobl04]

Archer's fantastic.

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I've had Archer on the Beach in my head all day.


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[nielsgov]

TONIGHT! Antwerp! U2! Very excited.

 

[cobl04]

I hope you get Ordinary Love as a closer.

 

[LemonMelon]

Might be slightly preferable to karaoke One.


...nah.

 

[cobl04]

Assuming they do come to Melbourne I hope they do a four-night stand and we get karaoke One one of the nights. Contrary to my endless negativity I think that would actually be really nice and moving. But just one night.

 

[cobl04]

obvs I would prefer full band not lazy with Do You Hear Us Coming tho

 

[Axver]

I hope they do a four-night stand in Melbourne just so I can enjoy at least two U2 shows without One at all.

 

[liamcool]

I just hope they do shows outside of stadiums so I can enjoy the shows.

 

[cobl04]

I can 100 per cent guarantee that our leg will be two shows at stadiums in Melb and Sydney. The two rotational slots in the second bit will be down to one, with one slot taken by a shithouse new song they're working on and the other a rotating Elevation/Desire/Volcano, the Bullet coda/segue replaced by a Seekers snippet and Bad/40 dropped completely.

 

[Hewson]

"Australia's not a country...its an idea. An idea about how people and marsupials can live together in peace!"

 

[bono_212]

I mean, most people would agree Ted and Robin was the best couple the show ever had, Lily and Marshall aside of course. And whilst the fast-forward nature of those final few minutes did raise an interesting sociological point about the way in which we perceive real, emotional, human, adult moments, it perhaps was not revelatory, I will admit, as it did call back to the end of the first episode.

And yet, perhaps, that is the most revelatory thing - in a time where we have been told that only the unexpected can be truly appreciated in popular culture, perhaps the revelation was in not surprising the viewer, though it did, somewhat briefly, surprise me.

Dude, shit was wack and you know it. Ted and Robin were a horrible couple, that were in a toxic relationship, neither wanting what the other did and the only reason they eventually got together was because they settled, because both of them were too fucked up to maintain relationships in their life while they were young. Ted pretending like he had found "the one" when he's actually a psychotic obsessive who only ever wanted what he wanted and not what other people wanted. Robin a career-obesessive who didn't really want a relationship with kids and didn't care what Ted wanted enough to make the relationship work beyond those bounds.

Their relationship is disturbing. And yeah, it momentarily GOT ME, like everyone. Once I was done crying for 30 seconds, though, and realized the horror of what I was getting all choked up about, I was definitely done with that.


Jesus, I've never seen a TV series completely ruined in 20 minutes, but HIMYM managed to do it.

You wouldn't think a guy with a Ph.D in Chinese Architecture could swear like that, but it's kind of hot.

Please tell me you were just now referencing iYup.

 

[cobl04]

I was most definitely taking the piss out of the people arguing about The Wire with my post, but I don't think I'd go so far as to call their relationship horrible or toxic. Ted is awful, but I'm still just enough of a sucker to not be too affected by it. I don't think I'll ever be able to turn on the show. Objectively speaking, the ending was atrocious, but I can't be subjective about HIMYM.

 

[bono_212]

I was most definitely taking the piss out of the people arguing about The Wire with my post, but I don't think I'd go so far as to call their relationship horrible or toxic. Ted is awful, but I'm still just enough of a sucker to not be too affected by it. I don't think I'll ever be able to turn on the show. Objectively speaking, the ending was atrocious, but I can't be subjective about HIMYM.

I know you were, but I figured I'd join in and have a semi-hi-brow conversation about a sitcom.

I do think that any relationship Ted is in is Toxic, but Robin also destroyed her relationship with Barney over nothing. So, yeah, they're both kinda horrible people that don't deserve anyone, and I have no problem saying that because it's a fictional show .

I love the show, but yeah, that ending was so bad, it has completely colored all of my subsequent rerun viewings. It's all I can think of.

 

[Diemen]

If only there was a Random TV Talk thread.

 

[Danny Boy]

So Pitchfork had literally sold out, to media conglomerate Conde Nast.


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[nielsgov]

Man I'm by far the youngest person in the crowd. I don't think I'll be picking up anyone tonight.

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[nielsgov]

Some Idioteque now. Nice.

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[Axver]

I can 100 per cent guarantee that our leg will be two shows at stadiums in Melb and Sydney. The two rotational slots in the second bit will be down to one, with one slot taken by a shithouse new song they're working on and the other a rotating Elevation/Desire/Volcano, the Bullet coda/segue replaced by a Seekers snippet and Bad/40 dropped completely.

Don't forget that the rotation of Electric Co./Out of Control/Gloria will be replaced by Stuck in a Moment.

 

[nielsgov]

It was brilliant. I'll elaborate a bit in the correct thread tomorrow.

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[bobsaget77]

Don't forget that the rotation of Electric Co./Out of Control/Gloria will be replaced by Stuck in a Moment.

The first set will evolve to this...
01 The Miracle
02 Vertigo
03 Elevation
04 Get On Your Boots
05 Vertigo x2
06 SFS (piano only)
07 Cedarwood (acoustic)
08 SBS (acoustic)
09 In A Little While
10 Mysterious Ways


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[martha]

Please tell me you were just now referencing iYup.

I was.

 

[u2popmofo]

So if I order the new Beach House and Deerhunter CDs from Amazon, they release two weeks after the digital download? I don't like.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

I know, man. I hate that shit.

I mentioned it a few weeks ago. The trend of releasing albims digitally and seeming to delay or even ignore a physical release fucking pisses me off.

Release your music physically, you assholes. Some people still like that.

 

[u2popmofo]

I know, man. I hate that shit.

I mentioned it a few weeks ago. The trend of releasing albims digitally and seeming to delay or even ignore a physical release fucking pisses me off.

Release your music physically, you assholes. Some people still like that.

I bestow many thumbs up to this post.

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[cobl04]

You already own one physical copy of a Beach House album, I don't see how any others would be any different. Got one album you got em all.

 

[martha]

I bestow many thumbs up to this post.

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I add some to this.

I had to delete some Mofo's thumbs to post that, but you know what I mean.

 

[cobl04]

I've said this before but I've Had the Time of My Life is absolute pop perfection.

 

[lazarus]

Are you referring to the Dirty Dancing song?

Probably in my Top 5 most hated tracks ever. I can't even listen to any Righteous Brothers because of it.

 

[IWasBored]

Yeah, that's an example of terrible cheesiness that should probably be set on fire.