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Random Music Talk XL: Slappin' Bitches With Vik
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lazarus
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Do you have me confused with someone else? I was one of the harsher critics of the setlists on the last tour, and thought all the news songs (save for Spin) were pretty weak.
As I said before, there are two issues here: the pricing, and the remaster (or lack thereof). With the first one, I am fully aware of the fact that the band is completely out of touch here and are asking too high a premium, though I still believe McCockne$$ sets the tone and is approved by the band.
With the second question, I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why they wouldn't do a remaster. They have done it with the previous 5 albums. The insane extras included with this set, combined with their attention to the AB songs on the last leg of the tour, make it clear they consider this anniversary to be an even more important one than the Joshua Cock remaster. So the notion that they didn't bother this time around because they were cheap, lazy, etc. just doesn't fly. And anyone who thinks so is a fucking moron.
PhilsFan
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I have no idea why they didn't remaster it, and I certainly don't think they're trying to save money. That's not the point. The point is that they absolutely should have remastered it, regardless of the explanation.
Popmartijn
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OK, I understand. It's just that on this forum those other anniversary editions are welcomed with open arms, while everyone and their mother are complaining about the AB edition. Then again, this is a U2 forum (OK, not BandC, but the rest of Interference).
For me, I am just tired of this idea that U2's motivations are always to take unfair advantage of their fans. Yes, I believe that their basic intentions are good, even though it doesn't always turn out that way. So the actual situation would probably be somewhere between those extremes.
[quteo]And here is the difference between Bruce's recent Darkness reissue and the impending AB one: The Promise was available as a separate piece for a fair price.[/QUOTE]
You're right, my bad. That stand-alone release of The Promise slipped my mind as I was mainly looking at the boxset (which I now have at home).
(That said, I did think it wasn't that classy by Bruce to release the documentary on the making of Darkness as a stand-alone disc with some bonus material not found on the boxset. And I fear the Achtung Baby documentary From The Sky Down will have a same kind of re-release.)
Popmartijn
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Even if it would result in an inferior product (i.e. an even worse sounding album)?
bono_212
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Usually, I'd agree Marty, but McGuinness set the whole tone for this thing quite negatively and I think it's effected the whole situation, every aspect.
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roger miret, bitches.
GirlsAloudFan
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This is your first ever post in this thread. Why would you go out of your way to call someone out and try to make them look stupid?
That doesn't seem very classy or charming either.
Nice to meet you, Nick66.
corianderstem
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Sometimes a post as rude as laz's deserves a little calling out and deserves being un-classy over.
iron yuppie
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Yes, definitely.
I think that the reissues to this point have been superb. The JT one especially was beautifully packaged, fairly priced, and had a nice amount of unheard material. I was happy to pay for that. If the AB reissue became a bonus disc with a few more unreleased tracks, the "baby" disc, and the documentary, I would happily pay for that as well. I fully understand that my personal opinion means nothing and should not mean anything to the ones planning the reissue, but it seems like a lot of other people on these boards, who will be the primary demographic for this reissue anyway, are also put off by the price and the formats. A stand-alone release containing most of the bonus material would be a wise marketing move, I think.
GirlsAloudFan
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I'll step out of it, it's not really my place to get involved anyway.
But Nick66, do you go to Notre Dame? I've visited that campus and there are a LOT of really hot girls there. So, you're cool.
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and this is why i don't believe in coincidences.
Nick66
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"Went" is the operative word. I'm an alum. And yes, I do seem to remember the girls being somewhat attractive.
lazarus
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For the record, I've always hated Notre Dame, though that's a common sentiment among sports fans.
I stand by what I said in The Other Place. I think the DID THEY OR DIDN'T THEY discussion was out of control (pun intended), and we've all talked before about the sub-par (even sub-human) level of intelligence of the average poster in that part of the forum. When it comes out, if it turns out to not be remastered, maybe we'll hear why from an official source. But the more important point is that considering the low cost of the process and the care given to previous albums, the lack of one this time around would seem to be to be a quality control issue and nothing else. They did one, didn't like it, and said keep the original. Some people like Peef won't care for that decision--it's good enough for me.
I stand by what I said in The Other Place. I think the DID THEY OR DIDN'T THEY discussion was out of control (pun intended), and we've all talked before about the sub-par (even sub-human) level of intelligence of the average poster in that part of the forum. When it comes out, if it turns out to not be remastered, maybe we'll hear why from an official source. But the more important point is that considering the low cost of the process and the care given to previous albums, the lack of one this time around would seem to be to be a quality control issue and nothing else. They did one, didn't like it, and said keep the original. Some people like Peef won't care for that decision--it's good enough for me.
Nick66
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That's OK. There's no shame in community college.
Really dude, someone who accuses whole other groups of people on here of possessing "sub-human" intelligence and then talks like you really shouldn't be throwing stones.
Oh, and Universal is essentially U2's label. That's a pretty official source.
lazarus
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By "official" I was referring to one of the band members, McCockne$$, one of the producers, etc. Not some label rep statement
Nick66
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It wasn't a "label rep statement." There's been no "statement" at all. It was inside information from two sources inside Universal. And the reporting on it from U2 Wanderer is first rate, that guy has always been right before, and he trusts the sources implicitly. And it's been independenly verified by another U2 site. And I wrote to Universal myself and they told me, twice, it wasn't remastered (and I published the email here).
And what do you want them to do, have Bono or McG come out at this stage of the game and say to the (buying) public, "Oh, by the way, for all this $$$ you're paying, the record's not remastered". Please. When you're selling a product, you don't emphasize the things it lacks. That's just basic marketing. You highlight the things you product has, and minimize, or don't mention at all, the thing it doesn't have.
Anyone who read that press release carefully knew this thing wasn't remastered on the first day.
lazarus
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That's why I said "when it comes out", which means post-release.
For someone who talks about not reading things carefully...
For someone who talks about not reading things carefully...
Nick66
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Dude, what are you talking about? If it IS remastered, don't you think they'd sorta mention it now, when they're trying to generate excitement and pre-orders? If it's not in the advertising, it's not remastered. This thing ONLY exists to move product off the shelf. What, they're going to keep the #1 selling point of their product a secret? Get their fan base upset with them for nothing?
Use some common sense. And read that press release again.
Nick66
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Maybe they like the way it sounds? Just a thought.
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Oh good 
Jive Turkey
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Maybe rainbow robinhood will make them go away
lazarus
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Damn it Cori, did you leave a trail of bread crumbs leading them to us??
RISE OF THE FORUM OF THE APES
RISE OF THE FORUM OF THE APES
elevated_u2_fan
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We really need to hire a bouncer or something 
monkeyskin
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No wonder we weren't meant to discuss U2 here.
Dammit laz, you got careless in the other place and let some of the wildlings track you back here. Now they know there's more U2 talk going outside their dried up husk of a sub forum they'll invade us. Damn you!
Dammit laz, you got careless in the other place and let some of the wildlings track you back here. Now they know there's more U2 talk going outside their dried up husk of a sub forum they'll invade us. Damn you!
lazarus
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In all seriousness, I've never said that everyone over there is an idiot, it's just that every intelligent comment is surrounded by a chorus of buffoonery, trolls, mouseketeers and sycophants, etc. It's really difficult to have any kind of legit discussion in the middle of it.
But hey, that's why it's called Interference!
But hey, that's why it's called Interference!
bono_212
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So, this guy is taking quotes you made in another thread an attacking you over here? Is that reportable?
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