BVS
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It's good enough for the kids, the victims, and our military, but I deserve a company that decides if I need treatment based on if they will make a profit!
that guy got beaten up walking home from a gay pride parade.
just sayin'.
Federal healthcare; your "Obamacare".
Evidence?
Evidence?
Evidence?
So then the only reason you're bitching non-stop about this is the man who sponsored it? It would be okay if it weren't for him?
Florida KidCare Elgibility I am not going to link every state for you . Every state has some version of this. Has for years .
you didn't keep up with the thread about bono's back in eykiw if you're surprised by this guy
Actually in some aspects Medicare is much quicker than other insurance companies and other aspects it's slower. I know when we had to apply certain devices or perform certain surgeries we could do so without written approval as long as it fit their guidelines. Other insurances would still require written confirmation and would often try and find an exception first in order to turn it down so that you would have to submit again.Primary care is a HUGE part of the problem.It IS the problem for most people I have acknowledged that from the begining. The BIGGEST problem is dealing with Medicare and Medicaid, and the insurance companies is getting approval for procedures. It is no easier from the Government, than it is from Insurance companies. Their is a problem when a hospital or Drs office has more accountants than Nurses.
And how do they keep their doors open?So yes, there is a primary care issue, but it it easily solved. Look at what Kentucky does. a Dr visit will cost you 5.00 bucks. Tests are included. You see the same Dr etc etc
Once again, do you have a link so that we can "look at the Clevland Clinic"? Their website doesn't exactly have spell out their business plan.Look at the Clevland Clinic. Once again a working examle of how to fix that problem. Easily. You don't destroy the Heart depatment at a place like the Cleveland Clinic to get people accesses to a Prmary Care Dr .
Do you think the current system or all those Republican "alternatives" were about healthcare?This bill isn't about healthcare. I don't believe it will pass the Courts.
The other problem with these is the fact that we have more People than the Uk, or Denmark . So to base it on $$ per person doesn't really relate.
Look at the Clevland Clinic. Once again a working examle of how to fix that problem. Easily. You don't destroy the Heart depatment at a place like the Cleveland Clinic to get people accesses to a Primary Care Dr .
If you have a business, and part of it is very good, and part is not working, you tear down the whole business to fix the part that is not working? No, that would be insane .
This bill isn't about healthcare. I don't believe it will pass the Courts.
...and clouds are made up of a combination of fairy dust and cocaine.
Truth.
Are you saying that most people with cancer die if they stay in Canada?This will never fly, so really, it is a moot point. We are too culturally different than UK or Denmark . people scream at McDonalds when their 1.00 hamburger takes 3 minutes they will howl when they can't get a Mamogram or other speciality care. In Canada it takes 9 to 18 months to get a specialty surgery. Most people would die of cancer in that period. That's why they come here.
Are you saying that most people with cancer die if they stay in Canada?
And that most Canadians come here to get health care?!
What I can't grasp is how the US spends more taxpayers money per capita on public healthcare than pretty much all other industrialised countries.
Where is all this money flowing to?
That is just flat out wrong.
A family member of mine (mother of a cousin by marriage) recently discovered she had cancer upon returning from a vacation and was immediately admitted to the hospital. After all the tests had been administered to determine exactly what she had, it was found that the cancer was at an advanced stage and immediately began treatment. It's too early to tell, but it seems like she'll be okay.
And last year I attended a friend's BBQ where I started talking sports with someone. He told me he no longer plays any competitive sports because he had surgery. Then he told me the story: In February of last year he started getting headaches. Then he collapsed a short time later and was rushed to the hospital.
That is not the norm. depends were you live.
There are problem with EVERY system, no question. I have said it many times. what is coming is a problem. You will never pay zero, and you will pay for visits. It will increase as demand and cost rise. Even the Presidents Budget director said so yesterday I think. Your going to pay so the free stuff isn't eeven in the equation. Read the bill. you will pay
Tests determined that he had a brain tumour. Within days he was operated on and the tumour removed. He now has regular checkups, and he can't do anything that involves physical contact that might result in a head injury. But he said he's never felt better in his life and is functioning like he did before.
In both cases they paid a grand total of $0. And they will always pay that amount and not have to worry about being dropped because of pre-existing conditions.
I cannot stress this enough: are there issues with our health care? There most certainly are, but I dare anyone to find a country that has a perfect system. There are none.
BUT with that said, I would much rather have our system, warts and all, than the one south of the border.
Can you please elaborate about this. I can't tell if you think the vaccine is fake, the number of H1N1 infections is fabricated, or the possibility of a pandemic a fraud.in a word, fraud and waste . again more accountants in the healthcare system here than Nurses.
Anyone seee the waste of the H1N1 vaccines .. the ones we were told that we were going to die if you didnt get one? BS
Very few people got it . The CDC was combining the number of seasonal flu with H1NI. so the numbers were totally false. I am not sure how many, but we saw very few.. very few. we didn't tak the shots either.
Follow the money of that contract. you would be surprised
How many medical professionals say any cancer is 100% curable?Rule with TC is it is out in 24 hours. 100% Curable.
That is not the norm. depends were you live. I could tell you 10 stories of horror for every one like you friend
Mark Cussy, 24 year old fun a lump in his testi. He waited and waited for the speacilist. Rule with TC is it is out in 24 hours. 100% Curable.
By the time we convinced him to get to the states instead of waiting, it was too late. so there is another view. 100 curable, and he was dead waiting for the specialist.
One would think an economy of scale could apply. Why would it cost more per capita to treat people in a larger system?I could show you other lists, and it would depend on who's list it is, where countries are .
The other problem with these is the fact that we have more People than the Uk, or Denmark . So to base it on $$ per person doesn't really relate.
The government isn't trying to turn a profit by denying coverage to sick people. How can you reasonably say that it's harder to get the state to subsidise procedures and medications than a for-profit insurance company?Primary care is a HUGE part of the problem.It IS the problem for most people I have acknowledged that from the begining. The BIGGEST problem is dealing with Medicare and Medicaid, and the insurance companies is getting approval for procedures. It is no easier from the Government, than it is from Insurance companies.
Could it relate to having a system beholden to corporate interests? Perhaps a radical overhaul could produce a better system.Their is a problem when a hospital or Drs office has more accountants than Nurses.
I have 5 people for every 50 patients who do nothing but deal with medicare and insurance Cpomapanies. It is a huge part of the cost.
Adding another layer of bureaucracy wouldn't solve anything. But streamlining a system which guarantees universal healthcare in some form seems better.Adding a HUGE new, multi layer Government "agency" is going to fix that? NO . They cant even run the VA.
The other problem is Medicare fraud is HUGE as it is now .
I don't understand how this links into having a public system. Is this meant to be an argument for or against private hospitals?The republican running for FL Gov used to own HCA , and under his watch, his company stole 2.7 BIllion dollars from Medicare. Biggest fraud ( that they caught) in history.
You repeat that there are costs to healthcare in socialised systems but present this. I don't think this is a free-market solution. If individuals are only paying $5 per visit the costs must be made up elsewhere, and you haven't demonstrated how this example is an easy solution to primary care issues.So yes, there is a primary care issue, but it it easily solved. Look at what Kentucky does. a Dr visit will cost you 5.00 bucks. Tests are included. You see the same Dr etc etc
Who is advocating the destruction of specialist centers?Look at the Clevland Clinic. Once again a working examle of how to fix that problem. Easily. You don't destroy the Heart depatment at a place like the Cleveland Clinic to get people accesses to a Prmary Care Dr .
Private hospitals can cater very well for those who can pay, but not everybody can. A system which offers reasonable quality of care to everybody does more good than one which gives extraordinary care to the minority.Leaders of UK, Saudi's , Canada , you name it, go to the Cleveland Clinic for hearts or Sloan in New York for cancer. Why? Why don't they go to their own hospitials?
Which posters have proposed the elimination of specialists?If you are in an accident, we have the best trauma centers in the world. we are top of that list as we are in heart, cancer, and every other speciality. You want those trauma centers to be your GP ?
I don't know anything about the American system. But if there are problems which can't be avoided with the current setup isn't serious change worthwhile? (and I'm not making a judgement of the Obama reforms).If you have a business, and part of it is very good, and part is not working, you tear down the whole business to fix the part that is not working? No, that would be insane.
Is it about socialism?There are many, many good working examples of how to fix the problems. Bush didnt deal with it, and this guy has a whole different idea of what it all means, and it is not about medical care.
I have relatives who haven't died in public healthcare, and I doubt they would have done as well in the US given their financial state.The best way to look at is that yes, many countries have much better access to GP's, but their speciality and ability to move from GP to a cancer Dr or diagnosis SUCKS . That's why they all come here.
You haven't offered any solutions to that issue.so, it is lest costly, way less, to fix the GP problem, which is getting much worse by the day. We are running out of GP's.
McDonalds produces fast burgers because it makes money. Should profit be the driving force of medicine?This will never fly, so really, it is a moot point. We are too culturally different than UK or Denmark . people scream at McDonalds when their 1.00 hamburger takes 3 minutes they will howl when they can't get a Mamogram or other speciality care.
More anecdotes please - they're nearly as good as evidence.In Canada it takes 9 to 18 months to get a specialty surgery. Most people would die of cancer in that period. That's why they come here.
Why not?again, I believe this is a moot point. I do agree that we have a GP problem. this already has made it worse.
This bill isn't about healthcare. I don't believe it will pass the Courts.
Follow the money of that contract. you would be surprised
Mark Cussy, 24 year old fun a lump in his testi. He waited and waited for the speacilist. Rule with TC is it is out in 24 hours. 100% Curable.
By the time we convinced him to get to the states instead of waiting, it was too late. so there is another view. 100 curable, and he was dead waiting for the specialist.
That is not the norm. depends were you live. I could tell you 10 stories of horror for every one like you friend
Mark Cussy, 24 year old fun a lump in his testi. He waited and waited for the speacilist. Rule with TC is it is out in 24 hours. 100% Curable.
By the time we convinced him to get to the states instead of waiting, it was too late. so there is another view. 100 curable, and he was dead waiting for the specialist.
There are problem with EVERY system, no question. I have said it many times. what is coming is a problem. You will never pay zero, and you will pay for visits. It will increase as demand and cost rise. Even the Presidents Budget director said so yesterday I think. Your going to pay so the free stuff isn't even in the equation. Read the bill. you will pay .
It is not free.
Can you please elaborate about this. I can't tell if you think the vaccine is fake, the number of H1N1 infections is fabricated, or the possibility of a pandemic a fraud.
This, combined with your previous "the only reason for emergency back surgery is loss of bowel control" is causing my BS alarm to go into Defcon 5 mode. Testicular cancer definitely has a high rate of curability, but it is not 100%.
Exactly what kind of medically related profession are you in?