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Why is one woman's choice to "celebrate" her abortion disturbing to you? Maybe it is worthy of celebration in her view, and there's nothing wrong with that. Would it make you feel better if she'd suffered for her decision? Was she not sufficiently repentant for your liking?
Nope. There are people on both sides of the issue who do things that make their side look bad.
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A few years ago, I was horrified to hear an anti-abortion ad on a fairly large rock radio station in this area that directly linked abortion with increased suicide. I contacted the station manager and requested that he pull the ad. In our communications over several days, he first refused to. Subsequently, I explained to him that his station ought to feel responsibility for spreading false information to its listeners, particularly ones as vulnerable as those who are experiencing unwanted pregnancies. I suggested he challenge the organization to provide proof that abortion does in fact cause an increase in suicides, and explained to him what to look for as far as reputable sources go, as opposed to anti-abortion group propaganda. He said he'd get back to me, then within a day or two, he contacted me to let me know they were unable to come up with anything, and as a result, the ad was being pulled. I hope I was able to prevent at least one girl or woman from feeling emotionally bullied by the spread of false information.
No, it would not make me feel better if she was suffering, with tears rolling down her face. As I said, I am pro-choice, so she doesn't need to be "repentant" for my liking.
I just see abortion as sad, unfortunate decision to make. Some women who get abortions do so because they are too young, or don't have the money to raise a child. So when they choose to terminate the pregnancy, personally, I think that is sad, because an abortion really is the termination of a pregnancy - which ends the making of a life, even if it is a bunch of cells at that point. So, for a woman to throw a party with people dancing around to party music, all because she is going through a procedure that can be emotionally tolling for me, is disturbing to me. Throwing a party for an abortion, is like, "Yay! She's going to have the fetus suctioned right out of her! Hooray!"
I see nothing wrong with collecting money to pay for the abortion, btw. But throwing a celebration is bit much.
You've neatly avoiding mentioning problems with depression, etc, that many women have to deal with after abortions.
this is an 'out take' from the Bruno movie.
Nope. There are people on both sides of the issue who do things that make their side look bad.
On Facebook, Glamour magazine has a link to an article that discusses it becoming the norm for women planning to have an abortion through a party ahead of it. I found a link to the story, and here it is:
My First Abortion Party | Reproductive Justice and Gender | AlterNet
Although the article -written by a guy - mostly discusses a guy's role in an abortion, I posted this because I am shocked that abortion parties actually exist. While I do support a woman's right to choose, throwing a party sounds disturbing to me. Why not just simply ask money from friends, and get it done - not basically celebrate something that, I believe, is a sad thing to go through.
What do you think?
No, it would not make me feel better if she was suffering, with tears rolling down her face. As I said, I am pro-choice, so she doesn't need to be "repentant" for my liking.
I just see abortion as sad, unfortunate decision to make. Some women who get abortions do so because they are too young, or don't have the money to raise a child. So when they choose to terminate the pregnancy, personally, I think that is sad, because an abortion really is the termination of a pregnancy - which ends the making of a life, even if it is a bunch of cells at that point. So, for a woman to throw a party with people dancing around to party music, all because she is going through a procedure that can be emotionally tolling for me, is disturbing to me. Throwing a party for an abortion, is like, "Yay! She's going to have the fetus suctioned right out of her! Hooray!"
I see nothing wrong with collecting money to pay for the abortion, btw. But throwing a celebration is bit much.
there's postpartum depression as well.
"The norm"??? I've never heard of such a thing until this thread.
We really have gone to hell.
We really have gone to hell.
If that's the case, I can't say anyone who is only "morally opposed" to abortion and calls themselves "personally pro-life" takes the issue very seriously.Maybe-but honestly it's not Glamour Magazine articles about abortion parties that make me feel that way. It's other things.
If my daughter would ever attend one of these, I will know that I have utterly failed as a father.
On a certain level.what if your daughter turns to you in 20 years and says, "Mac, i've really thought about the issue, and i am convinced that i support a woman's right to choose. i've done the research, i've talked with both sides, and my experience in life tells me that you've been wrong about this your whole life. my friend is throwing a party, and i'm going to go to support her because i love my friend and i support her choice."
still a failure?
If that's the case, I can't say anyone who is only "morally opposed" to abortion and calls themselves "personally pro-life" takes the issue very seriously.
If you do, then I really don't know what to make of it. (Point taken about Glamour Magazine, though)Is that directed at me?
I do take it very seriously. I just don't take Glamour Magazine very seriously. That was the point-that other things going on in the world disturb me much more than Glamour Magazine making an issue out of this. Honestly I didn't read the article because I didn't have time. But I will read it. I do look at the magazine and even buy it once in a while for interest in beauty and fashion and maybe something on the cover that gets my attention. Just like all of those other magazines.
But please don't imply that I don't take abortion seriously.
this was weird
[Report this comment] Posted by: bobson on Jul 7, 2009 1:41 AM
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I mean, I'm pro choice and all but gathering to celebrate the killing off of a fetus is pretty f'in morbid and callous.
Should such a decisions not be carried out with the utmost seriousness and respect to the life that is about to be extinguished?
"Not about to" have a baby because she is 22 and just doesn't want to ruin her fun time is why the pro choice movement has so much trouble. This is abusing that right to choose, and the party, and the other girls wanting to exclude and resenting the boyfriend, this is some seriously cold shit and it offers a new glimpse into the downright darkness that resides in the female soul. This is some stone age pagan shit right here, can't believe it is happening in 2009!
If you do, then I really don't know what to make of it
The "downright darkness that exists in the female soul"?
I'm just wondering if it's just for that time of the month, or all the time
Sure...Maybe you should just come out and say what you mean instead of being so obtuse
We all have our dark sides. There's a dark side to the male that approves and encourages this atrocity. They don't want to take responsibility for knocking up a woman.The "downright darkness that exists in the female soul"? Wow, such a statement derived from a Glamour Magazine article. I'm off to read GQ to discover the downright darkness that exists in the male soul.
The truth is that this poster obviously knows it's morally repugnant for these "abortion parties" to be the new baby showers.That's the "truth"? If that's the truth I hate to see a lie.