Can't we just wait until the album comes out before we doom it? It's like there are some people that are just dying for this album to fail before they've even heard it.
I don't know how educated you are, but it is known that the US and Canadian governments are attempting to spend their way (and get us to do the same) out of the recession. Saving money (and incentives to save) has proven to be a major failure in Japan. But this isn't an economics site.
A U2 arena tour in NA will still exceed the demand regardless. The only real question is: how many stops in Chicago, New York City, and LA. Dealing in 20,000 seats is not the same as dealing in 60,000 seats.
That said, I seriously doubt that U2 were/are even giving it any thought to seriously tour NA via stadiums. Given the sound/direction that Boots seems to be going, a "new" U2 is taking shape and the general audience that craves "classic coke" U2 (ie. Beautiful Day) is without a doubt, going to be a little hesitant to jump on this. I don't think this is rocket science.
As for me, I still have to drive 3 hours. Vancouver is my stop.
I live in the US so I'm well aware of the measures to help the economy recover. The stimulus will not fix the economy overnight. Anyway, I'm certain they'll sell out major metropolitan areas with ease. It's the Toledos and the Cleves and the St.Louis's that fans should worry about.
And, forgive me if i am mistaken, but IF the 2 version of the song where combined, would that gotten this into the top 10?
Forgive my ignorance but why is there 2 versions? What's the difference?
One was from the delux version and one from the standard i belive,
but if the sales of the 2 versions where combined, then am pretty sure they would have had a top 10.
One was from the delux version and one from the standard i belive,
but if the sales of the 2 versions where combined, then am pretty sure they would have had a top 10.
And sold 6 million in the ROW at a minimum, which actually is pretty decent, all POP flopping in the US shows is that generally if the music isnt of a "conventional" nature of pop or rock it wont sell down there.
Thats another reason I am happy that U2 put this song out first, they probably didnt have their moneybags manager telling them to put it out because this will make us the most money.
yes, but on the strength (or lack, thereof) of the leadoff single, the new album is so far looking like it's headed toward a POP-like disappointment.
POP went #1 in its first week and dropped precipitously thereafter, selling a little more than 1million copies in the US total. Don't harp on presales.
Mods, I'm going to have to ask with great disgust in my typing fingers why this sort of post hasn't been chastised. This is unnaceptable language, in a public, moderated forum, and all the more so in light of people regularly being scolded for saying things like, "You sound so stupid!" to other posters. Why is it okay to make homophobic remarks but not okay to have petty back-and-forths? I don't know if laurent37 actually is homophobic, but I know that A) I'm not anti-Semitic, and B) if I nevertheless started a thread, or started to post in another thread, casually promoting anti-Semitism, it wouldn't last a second. I'm far more offended by this than I've been by U2popmofo calling me a douchebag, or whatever, from time to time. Priorities, anybody...?
Boots is bad. Sorry.
I've gone to over 25 shows. I've flown all over to see opening and closing nights. I've sat in on setlist parties.
I have thousands of U2 songs in my iTunes library.
This song just doesn't do it for me.
I still believe the album is going to blow me away but I don't think this was a good choice for a single and I don't think it's going to set the tone of the album.
Mods, I'm going to have to ask with great disgust in my typing fingers why this sort of post hasn't been chastised. This is unnaceptable language, in a public, moderated forum, and all the more so in light of people regularly being scolded for saying things like, "You sound so stupid!" to other posters. Why is it okay to make homophobic remarks but not okay to have petty back-and-forths? I don't know if laurent37 actually is homophobic, but I know that A) I'm not anti-Semitic, and B) if I nevertheless started a thread, or started to post in another thread, casually promoting anti-Semitism, it wouldn't last a second. I'm far more offended by this than I've been by U2popmofo calling me a douchebag, or whatever, from time to time. Priorities, anybody...?
Congrats to bram and Aygo for saying what should've been said by the powers that be. Kudos to the both of you.
So the song that U2 released pretty much to everyone for free on the mothersite is flopping on iTunes? Would like to see the numbers again when the minted version becomes available.
Oh, and I'm sure the fact that you mise the track for free with the pre-order is hindering "single sales"
And another thing, if Pop was retuned and Last Night on Earth was the lead track, the album would sale in the US. It's still better than most alternative or rock available. It blows the new Killers record out of the water.
And I like the new Killers record.
you are forgetting one thing. This is U2. This is not some band releasing their 3rd or 4th or even 5th album. This is U2. Their name alone is enough for the album to sell 4 or 5mln copies. Look at U2"18Singles", that album sold like 4,5mln copies and it's total crap (not to mention a 3rd best of in just 8 years)
I am so tired of people who don't like the song explaining how big of a fan they are. We don't care, we are all big fans. Like the song or don't like, stop trying to convince others by reasoning that you have the ability to know best.
Good points - casual fans and bigger fans can hear the song on U2.com. Why pay for something that one can hear for free? Plus, if one wants an mp3 of it, there's tons of software to convert any sound on the web into one. U2 gave this song away as a gift, yet people are still complaining?
That practically applies to every musician out there. You can listen to a Coldplay stream for free on myspace or wherever, yet people still choose to pay to download the Viva La Vida track 7 or 8 months after its May 2008 release. It's sitting pretty at #29 on the itunes chart, while U2's brand new song has slid to #46. Maybe the free track with pre-order depressed the sales somewhat, but the steep decline is a trend you cannot dismiss.
He doesnt like the song so the fact that its "flopping" on Itunes makes him feel good.
hang on- the album is still 6 weeks away, the single has only just been aired on radio- it's a wee bit early to call it a flop don't you think??
and as someone else said there is a music industry outside of the US- perhaps if it fares less well in the US they'll spend less time touring there (for a change)