While I may agree with some of the things the original poster wrote, I have to defend the ATYCLB album and the Elevation tour that promoted it. 'All That....' was a necessaryalbum to make and a much-needed change from 'Pop' [although I love that album] in the same vein that 'Achtung Baby'/'Zooropa' was a welcome change from the 'Joshua Tree'/'Rattle and Hum' sound and image was. What my fellow hard core fans always fail to realize when they express their disallusionment is that our favorite band got a third chance at respectability, from both press and public, in the third decade of thier career. 'All That...' gave U2 the kind of relevance that equalled or sometimes even crushed the Joshua era. The 'All That.../Elevation era even brought certain people I know, who tuned out after the Unforgettable Fire tour ended in '85, coming back in '00 as quadruple the fans they ever were. What i'm trying to say is that shouldn't we be at least happy for our four heroes that they got another chance especially after the beating they took for 'Pop' and the Popmart tour? Even if some of you didn't like the music on ATYCLB? And what other band could one say that has nine lives like a cat?
What I feel about U2's new record
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luna_lovegood
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To the original poster: I respect that U2 don't do it for you anymore. However, how can you say that they've lost the ability to bring the roof down live? You say that you attended the Vertigo shows? How can you not have been moved by the way they become bigger than the songs? Bigger than the audience? Bigger than the venue? Their music still comes to life in front of an audience. Their old songs were revisited and redecorated for Vertigo and they kicked ass. They are as good live as they ever were, IMO. Regardless of what they get up to in the studio, I believe that they will always have the ability to reach out to every person in every stadium or arena they perform in.
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I think the new record will be better than Pop.
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ozeeko
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I think anything is possible with u2 because they have reinvented themselves many times. The only way for them to release something magical is to transcend all notions of sales and Grammies and number one hit songs and beating out Coldplay and the Killers (two bands already past their peak), and just simply write beautiful music. That is all. I am hoping for the best, and expecting the worst.
bono_man2002
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Yes, because winning Grammies mean great music.
The Killers haven't even released their third album yet, and you think they've passed their peak?
The Killers haven't even released their third album yet, and you think they've passed their peak?
Yahweh_OMG
New Yorker
Wow, what are you saying here...to call Radiohead a cover band of U2....then you don't appreciate real, original, relevant music. If there is any band that is still re-inventing music, it is radiohead at this moment (That's my opinion)
Yeah, you might be right, but they just don't do it for me!
I like some songs, but saw them live 2 years ago and it sucked big time.
As a live act, it doesn't come any close to U2 range.
Album wise, maybe, it's true that they reinvent themselves quite a lot.
I'm not a fan at all.
Irishteen
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Radiohead easily compare to U2 as a live; I've saw them twice and they're one of the most amazing live bands I've seen. They also change their setlists up a lot more than U2 and are willing to drop big singles from their setlist.
The Sad Punk
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Mainly because Thom Yorke hates every big single they ever released.
last unicorn
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Radiohead have big singles?
Irishteen
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Can Bono please hate Pride from now on? And realise they need to pay the other 9 songs from that album live?
Irishteen
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Radiohead have big singles?
Creep - 7
Street Spirit - 5
Paranoid Android - 3
Karma Police - 8
No Surprises - 4
Pyramid Song - 5
There There - 4
They seem to have been big enough hits
The Sad Punk
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High and Dry and Fake Plastic Trees not there?
Irishteen
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last unicorn
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I think of Creep and High and Dry as the only "big" singles they had.
Apart from that, I really don't think you can compare U2 and Radiohead as live bands.
Apart from that, I really don't think you can compare U2 and Radiohead as live bands.
Irishteen
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Creep and High and Dry? Creep wasn't even their biggest hit in the UK and High and Dry doesn't come close and even if we talk about the US; the band had 3 other singles that charted higher than High and Dry there.
If you can't compare their live shows; then you're saying you really can't compare the live shows of any bands. If you try you can find any reason to say you can't compare the bands as live acts.
Yahweh_OMG
New Yorker
Well, I guess we haven't seen the same Radiohead on stage.
It was one of the most boring concert ever. And not because they didn't play Creep or some other "hit", but because they seem to sleep and couldn't careless.
I would rather see Mariah Carey....
Irishteen
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Well, I guess we haven't seen the same Radiohead on stage.
It was one of the most boring concert ever. And not because they didn't play Creep or some other "hit", but because they seem to sleep and couldn't careless.
I would rather see Mariah Carey....
Are you sure you didn't see Mariah Carey live? Or did you go to the concert were they decided to play all of Pablo Honey?
Did you see Thom's dancing? if that's what you call sleep...I'm worried for you
Your perceptions > chart placement?
Yahweh_OMG
New Yorker
Are you sure you didn't see Mariah Carey live? Or did you go to the concert were they decided to play all of Pablo Honey?
Did you see Thom's dancing? if that's what you call sleep...I'm worried for you
That's nice of you to be worried about me
I wasn't even drunk, maybe that's why it was boring...
No, to be serious, first of all it's by far not my fav band, but I like some stuff and respect the reinvention. Once again, album-wise they are good, maybe very good. But as a live band, next to U2, they are kids. Not only their show (screen, stage setups...) but also contacts to the crowd, presence, etc...
The only one I loved besides U2 are the Red Hot. And it was without big stage setups and stuff. Just their energy and contact.
Radiohead is more like The Cure (that I saw 4 times and who is my 2nd fav band). In fact, Smith sings and does nothing else. York did the same at the concert I saw.
Saracene
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Whether it's a virtue though depends on your perspective. If you're a big fan who attends a few concerts or follows the tour on the net, that's one thing. If you're a casual fan who goes to just one show and doesn't really care about rotating setlists and would just rather hear the more popular songs you'd probably feel differently.
For the record, I don't remember Thom dancing at all at the Radiohead show I went to, but then the whole night was kinda off for him, with vocal problems and whatnot.
BVS
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How predictable...
A U2 sucks thread turns into a Radiohead thread...
I hope Bono's OK...
A U2 sucks thread turns into a Radiohead thread...
I hope Bono's OK...
Irishteen
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That's nice of you to be worried about me
I wasn't even drunk, maybe that's why it was boring...
No, to be serious, first of all it's by far not my fav band, but I like some stuff and respect the reinvention. Once again, album-wise they are good, maybe very good. But as a live band, next to U2, they are kids. Not only their show (screen, stage setups...) but also contacts to the crowd, presence, etc...
The only one I loved besides U2 are the Red Hot. And it was without big stage setups and stuff. Just their energy and contact.
Radiohead is more like The Cure (that I saw 4 times and who is my 2nd fav band). In fact, Smith sings and does nothing else. York did the same at the concert I saw.
Well each to their own then I guess; I probably shouldn't say much I hated Radiohead like...just over a year and a half ago and now I own all their albums; have been to two concerts and can fanboy a little over them at times.
You've saw the Cure live four times? Nice, I'd like to see them live depending on what they played if it was a set full of 80s stuff from like Pornography or Disintegration I'd love it; if it was mostly newer stuff I'd probably be bored
You're right and I actually have only saw U2 live once and I loved them and if I saw them again with the same set I probably would love it just as much but there's something to be said about when a band plays the b-side you really don't expect (that said U2 did play Party Girl). And for me when I go to a concert as a casual fan of course I love to hear the hits but I always love hearing songs I didn't know that can get me into the band more.
Irishteen
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How predictable...
A U2 sucks thread turns into a Radiohead thread...
I hope Bono's OK...
Typical all everyone ever cares about on this forum is Bono!
The real question is
Is Paul McGuinne$$ okay?
last unicorn
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Yes, guess what: A BIG single is a single that is high on the charts and gets a lot of radio airplay.
Everything else is just a single, whether you like the song or not.
last unicorn
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I hope Thom Yorke is ok, because from his singing I always get the impression that he suffers from constant pain.
Irishteen
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Singles go high in the chart due to getting a lot of radio play generally. Singles get radio play; people buy it; single gets more radio play that's generally how it works
Salome
you are what you is
are we seriously suggesting that every song that's been in the top ten is a BIG single?
interesting
otherwise I agree with BonoVoxSupastar on the original post
it is fraud with personal opinion, the idea that U2 is a poor love band since Elevation seems odd and the relation between remastering their 80s catalogue and their current output is lost on me
interesting
otherwise I agree with BonoVoxSupastar on the original post
it is fraud with personal opinion, the idea that U2 is a poor love band since Elevation seems odd and the relation between remastering their 80s catalogue and their current output is lost on me
last unicorn
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I know how it works, I wasn't doubting it.
No, more the opposite: That there can be BIG singles without doing well in the charts.
Maybe it's only a question of definition, but for me BIG & SINGLE = CHART SUCCESS.
Not that I care. I like Radiohead's (or any band's/artist's) music no matter if it is a big single or high in the charts or even in the charts at all.
I just don't see many "big" singles with Radiohead. But again, it doesn't matter.
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