phillyfan26
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McCain. Obama. America. THE ELECTION.
McCain. Obama. America. THE ELECTION.
I actually like the U.S. and don't want to see them go down. I don't think it's rocket science to know that we benefit greatly by free trade and the military protection the U.S. provides.
If I was a liberal I would be one of those Anti-Americans. Most anti-americanism is related to envy.
That's just great. I'm a liberal and in no way am I anti-American, nor am I envious.
Canadians are more liberal and into entitlement behaviour. They hate success and believe it should be given.
If I was a liberal I would be one of those Anti-Americans.
(Financeguy quote)Ah yes, manichaeist thinking - a classic symptom of the neo-'conservative' meme.
Sadly, there is no known cure for this affliction. (End quote)
Yeah there is a cure. Destroy all weapons, fly a white flag, open borders, hug terrorists and die in a hail of nuclear warheads while watching Letters from Iwo Jima, crying for the fascist Japanese and how they were abused by American soldiers. I think I prefer my way of thinking.
I'm sure liberals believe in good and evil and Western civilization is evil, and Bush is a terrorist and evil. Liberals want to "cure" conservatives instead of convince them and that's the difference.
How do you avoid manichaeist thinking in regards to WWII? Is relativism the answer? There are so many examples in history of people trying to control other people in abusive ways that it's ignoring human nature if we decide not to defend ourselves.
Human beings seem to like freedom and those that don't are either slaves and can't freely speak or those that run slaves and benefit from it. You need to define good and evil and the U.S. correctly looks at human nature and their love of freedom as a starting point. The rest of the argument relates to whether my freedom interferes with your freedom. Law has to come in and democracy to organize all the disputes on what freedom is for. As Lord Acton said "Freedom is not the power to do what we like but the power to do what we ought." Law is a culmination of human experience that is adjusted over time as generations debate its place.
If you get mugged in the street are you telling me that you are above good and evil labels and will just brush yourself off and feel no moral indignation? Relativists usually get hung up on NAZIS because most people look at them as evil. You can't escape the labels of Good and Evil if you want to communicate successfully. Relativism is like anti-knowledge.
Just change one letter in the above and this could be a mighty fun thread.
Yeah there is a cure. Destroy all weapons, fly a white flag, open borders, hug terrorists and die in a hail of nuclear warheads while watching Letters from Iwo Jima, crying for the fascist Japanese and how they were abused by American soldiers. I think I prefer my way of thinking.
I'm sure liberals believe in good and evil and Western civilization is evil, and Bush is a terrorist and evil.
Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
^ National polls only matter when Obama is up, right?
i report, you decide.
i could also flip it on it's head and note that the only polls you post are when McCain was enjoying his bounce.
national polls will matter more the closer we get to the election, though the battleground state polls matter more. as i've said repeatedly, the polls are good to understand a snapshot in time, and to map overall trends, but they are a poor thing to use to make a prediction.
it is what it is. and what all the polls are showing is a move towards Obama.
but, in my opinion, Obama is going to have to be at least 5 points ahead to compensate for racism.
I agree national polls aren't that important, at least for another month. The state polls are interesting, and some of the battleground states are very close, which is good news for McCain. He has a shot of picking up Michigan or Minnesota, among others. I don't see any way Obama picks up Florida or some other fairly red states. We'll see though. State polls lag behind national polls. The only reason I posted the RCP average with McCain ahead post-convention was because September 7 was the first time since I believe April 13 that he was ahead nationally. I knew it wouldn't last. I expect for the next few weeks the national polls to show anywhere from a tie to a 4 point Obama lead, though the debates coming up might change that.
I agree national polls aren't that important, at least for another month. The state polls are interesting, and some of the battleground states are very close, which is good news for McCain. He has a shot of picking up Michigan or Minnesota, among others.
I will boldly predict that McCain isn't going to win either of these states.