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Seriously, some of you people just can't accept that we won't be getting anything this year. Of course all those older articles said that it was almost done, but this most recent one says that will come out next year, and you have to take that as fact.
 
so do you guys think MOS will make the album in full form, 8+ minutes of epicness? :hyper:


I have to say I'd be very very frustrated if it ended up making the album and it was like 4 minutes or something...
 
This is how I'm calling it:

Late Nov/Early Dec - Announcement
Late Feb - Album
Sometime in March - Tickets go on sale for tour
Sometime in May - tour begins

Now obviously previous U2 tours have usually started in March but that just isn't going to be possible this time. Usually there's at least 2 months between tickets going on sale and the shows starting, and I'll bet my bottom dollar no tickets will be released until the album is out. Although, U2 is guaranteed to sell out anyway I guess! Having said all this, I certainly don't see them starting a tour in September, so May it is. Gives them plenty of time to do some US arenas before hitting Europe for the usual July/Aug/Sep jaunt. If the US arena shows sell out quickly, then a stadium leg will be planned for after Europe. Then hopefully us fans Down Under get some shows!
Feel free to shoot my theories down in flames, but hey this is just my (wishful) thinking.
 
lazarus said:
The thing about U2.com is, it's run like any other site. The band members aren't literally writing these articles themselves. Someone from the site talks to them and reports back to the subscribers.

Now granted, what's published on U2.com has more of a "stamp of approval" because it has their names attached to it, but it's still journalism, and realistically doesn't have any more legitimacy than any other official quotes attributed to the band from other articles, interviews, etc.
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Thank you.
 
Rumour on the street is that U2 are too scared they won’t win Album, Record and Single of the Year this year against the mighty Coldplay so they have collectively decided to pull back the album to a year where the mighty Coldplay haven’t recorded.
 
Bottle Bono said:
Rumour on the street is that U2 are too scared they won’t win Album, Record and Single of the Year this year against the mighty Coldplay so they have collectively decided to pull back the album to a year where the mighty Coldplay haven’t recorded.
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It's "word on the street"....not rumour.
 
Bottle Bono said:
Rumour on the street is that U2 are too scared they won’t win Album, Record and Single of the Year this year against the mighty Coldplay so they have collectively decided to pull back the album to a year where the mighty Coldplay haven’t recorded.
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that's complete bullshit...COMPLETE
 
Moser said:
Nope, Viva La Something was so good, Coldplay is gonna get Album of the Year two years in a row.
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I can't see Coldplay winning anything over U2....but we really won't know how they'll match up until we get the new U2 record...
 
Bottle Bono said:
Rumour on the street is that U2 are too scared they won’t win Album, Record and Single of the Year this year against the mighty Coldplay so they have collectively decided to pull back the album to a year where the mighty Coldplay haven’t recorded.
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If you knew what you were talking about and at least wanted to create a rumour that would last longer than 5 minutes you would know that even if they released on their November date like mentioned before the two albums wouldn't be in the same Grammy year cycle.

Ultimate fail.

October 1 is always their cut off...
 

It’s simple, U2 is scared of Cold play.

As they play the same middle of the road, predictable, bland, sounds that makes U2 favourites with Grammy voters.

U2 have backed off rather than made a confrontation.

Look for Cold play to get a massive amount of nominations at this years’ Grammys.

The Grammy Awards, are ending the year a little early.
What follows is a look at some of the more notable releases of late 2007 and the first half of 2008, and how they may fare come Grammy time. Some are major efforts from established artists and others, while Grammy long shots, are simply albums deserving of more recognition.
Ten albums are discussed in this post, and five were mentioned last week. Any favorites you want to highlight? Please share in the comments below.
And click here for a look at some of the notable new artists of 2008 ... thus far. It should be noted that some of the newcomers, such as Duffy, may also figure into the album of the year discussion, but in the interest of spreading the wealth, repeats from last week will not be discussed here.
Mariah Carey, "E=MC2." The pop diva's follow-up to the Grammy-adored "Emancipation of Mimi."
Grammy possibilities: Carey's "Mimi" marked a huge comeback for the artist, a much-needed return to form after the commercial/critical disappointments that were "Glitter" and "Charmbracelet." Recording Academy voters were apparently delighted that the megastar rebounded, and responded by awarding Carey 8 Grammy nominations, including album of the year. "E=MC2" closely follows the "Mimi" template, and at times feels like a track-by-track response (substitute "It's Like That" for "Migrate"), but audiences don't seem to mind. The album is still in the top 25 on U.S. pop charts two months after its release, and the album has already spawned two hit singles in "Touch My Body" and "Bye Bye." Carey will undoubtedly be awarded with a bevy of Grammy nominations, but don't bet on "E=MC2" scoring as many as "Mimi," and it likely won't be a favorite for an album of the year nod. It too closely sticks to the "Mimi" template.
Grammy deserving: Does it really matter? One of the best-selling artists of all time, Carey is more than critic-proof, and "E=MC2" likely didn't do anything to change anyone's mind about the singer. It's finely-produced dance-pop crafted by an assortment of the industry's highest-paid producers, and the strongest tracks are worthy representations of mainstream trends. But as a whole, "E=MC2" is responding to pop fashions rather than defining them.
Coldplay, "Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends." The latest from the British rockers debuted at No. 1, and will surely end up as one of the top-selling rock albums of the year.
Grammy possibilities: Look for Coldplay to rack up the nominations. The band already has four Grammy trophies on its mantle, including two best alternative album wins, but has not yet scored an album of the year nod. If that's going to change for the band, "Viva La Vida" is the album that will do it. Turning to U2 producer Brian Eno, the album offers a tweak of the Coldplay sound, resulting in a vibrant, more energetic album, and one that will still sound momentous when blasted in baseball stadiums. It's not exactly an artsy record, but one that offers enough production flourishes that Recording Academy voters will believe they're voting for one.
Grammy deserving: If not completely daring, it's the type of album Grammy is made to recognize. The world is surely exhausted with critical takes of "Viva La Vida," but Coldplay was able to take chances without sacrificing its knack for shining choruses. Indeed, songs such as "Lost!" and the title cut are designed to be enjoyed en masse, but come packed with an attention to detail lacking in most mainstream fare.
Robert Plant and Alison Krauss, "Raising Sand." Released too late to snare an album of the year nod at the 2008 ceremony, it still earned Krauss and Plant a best pop collaboration with vocals Grammy for the swift, rootsy rocker "Gone Gone Gone (Done Moved On)."
Grammy possibilities: Yep. Krauss already has 21 of the things, and "Raising Sand" should give her a few more, certainly in the country fields. As for Plant? He's overdue for some Grammys, and there's few things Grammy voters love more than awarding legendary artists. With "Raising Sand" being universally hailed as a pretty terrific album, it should be expected to snare some major nominations. It will be interesting to see if "Raising Sand," and its haunting country undertones, is Nashville's representative in the album of the year field.
Grammy deserving: Certainly, as "Raising Sand" landed on a bevy of year-end lists in 2007, and the melding of two distinct voices resulted in a rather transfixing work. It's an elegant, almost spooked exploration of Americana, and an admirable showcase for both artists.
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, "Dig!!! Lazurus Dig!!!" More than a dozen albums into his career, the cult hero delivers with one of his most aggressive, focused albums.
Grammy possibilities: Probably not going to happen -- and definitely not in any major fields. OK, so it isn't going to happen, but one can dream, right? And it's worth noting that the album came out on Epitaph's imprint Anti-, a label that has done a solid job of snaring nominations for its artists (Bettye LaVette, Solomon Burke). Yet depending on how -- or even if -- the album is submitted, a rock nomination or alternative nomination wouldn't be totally out of the question. Last year's alternative album field, for instance (Arcade Fire, Bjork, the Shins), was as adventurous as the Grammy voters have gotten, and Cave would fit in well in the category.
Grammy deserving: No need to write in and point out the ridiculousness of putting Nick Cave in a blog post that's more or less about the Grammys (I'm aware). But it's a wonderfully smoldering, sarcastic record, and shows that a veteran artist can still pack quite a bit of fire.
Al Green, "Lay It Down." R&B legend + a duet or two = Grammy-nominated album.
Grammy possibilities: Absolutely. See above. But even though Green receives a helping hand from a pair of former best new artist nominees -- John Legend and Corinne Bailey Rae -- this is Green's show, and "Lay It Down" was one of his best-reviewed albums in years. Additionally, there's no doubt some CBS producers caught the recent BET Awards, where a lengthy tribute to Green turned out to be a rather vigorous segment. An appearance at the 2009 Grammy Awards should be expected. Green has certainly received a fair share of Grammys, including a lifetime achievement award in 2002, but the industry's goodwill to Green, coupled with a rather consistent offering, should set him up for a wealth of nominations.
Grammy deserving: While "Lay It Down" doesn't rival Green's masterworks, it's a safe and respectable addition to his catalog. And it's one that should be nominated in the R&B fields but not the pop categories.
And five others:
Erykah Badu, "New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)": A fascinatingly weird and complex R&B album from a veteran artist. Badu has four Grammys in her collection, but none for anything as funky and other-worldly as the music on this album.
Beck, "Modern Guilt": The eccentric Los Angeles artist has scored two album of the year nominations in the past. Advance word on "Modern Guilt" has been positive, and while I haven't yet had a chance to hear the whole album, commenter Rob is putting it up there with "In Rainbows."
Portishead, "Third": Returning from a 10-year absence, Portishead's "Third" will likely find itself atop of bevy of year-end lists, and has a shot at Grammy alt music category, as the band took a creative leap -- and risk -- by drastically moving away from the murky electronic/hip-hop of its past. The album, which debuted at No. 7 on the U.S. pop charts, is wildly ambitious, but the grace in Beth Gibbons' vocals keeps the album from ever being abrasive.

Rhmyefest, "Man in the Mirror": Never mind Lil Wayne, this is best hip-hop album released in 2008 thus far, and it doesn't cost a dime. A tribute to a hero, but one that makes Jackson's larger-than-life persona relatable to the working man. No shot for any sort of Grammy, as it's unlicensed work, but Rhymefest and his producer, Mark Ronson, come with the Grammy voter seal of approval.
Lil Wayne, "The Carter III": What will likely end up as the year's top-selling album, "The Carter III" could be expected a given for an album of the year nod. There's no denying Wayne's power as a singles artist, the strength of his mixtapes and his firm understanding of how to nurture his fan base -- traits that make it easier to look over the inconsistency of "The Carter III."
 
Bono running scared of Christopher Anthony John Martin. Gwyn Paltrow, old man. Who would have believed it. It is a sad day in U2 history.
 
Of course Gwyneth has confronted Bono on a few occasions, at certain functions like the Brit Awards, over the years, in relation to comments attributed to Bono in relation to cussing Cold play’s music, when she is “full of the sauce” and she is not afraid of him. In a pub in Dublin in the Temple District, she got into a spot of Irish dwarf throwing with a Bono look-alike in his fly shades. She threw the dwarf at one stage nearly 5 metres. The dwarf was actually taller than the real life Bono.
 
If the album came out in November 2008, it would not be in the same Grammy cyle as Viva La Vida. Only a single could be nominated if it was released before October 1, not the album. So this argument is crap.
 
U2 and their managmeent always release a single to catch the early Grammy cycle. Thus giving them the chance to win two records of the year like with Beautiful Day and Walk On off ATYLB.

They also won a Grammy for Desire before Rattle and Hum came out.

They figure Cold Play has record of the year in the bag so they have postponed the whole process to catch another cycle.

It isn’t crap at all.
 
Bottle Bono said:
U2 and their managmeent always release a single to catch the early Grammy cycle. Thus giving them the chance to win two records of the year like with Beautiful Day and Walk On off ATYLB.

They also won a Grammy for Desire before Rattle and Hum came out.

They figure Cold Play has record of the year in the bag so they have postponed the whole process to catch another cycle.

It isn’t crap at all.
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Dude...tell me why exactly U2 should be afraid of Coldplay or Chris Martin?
 
Rob33 said:
Dude...tell me why exactly U2 should be afraid of Coldplay or Chris Martin?
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Because Viva La Vida sounds like a Coldplay album that was recorded immediately after the band found out what Pitchfork was. U2 could never match that kind of artistic integrity in their current sellout phase.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/jun/06/popandrock.shopping

No less a musical authority than Guy Hands has called Viva la Vida "the most important song, record and album of the year".
For once, it's hard to argue with the EMI boss: There is a sense that they finally might be about to offer something different from the increasingly windy and lachrymose stadium ballads that fuelled it.
There are intimations of artistic insurrection and tumult. The album's title may sound like something you'd find on the cocktail menu on TGI Friday, but it comes from a painting by surrealist Frida Kahlo. The cover features Delacroix's romantic depiction of the spirit of revolution, Liberty Leading the People Over the Barricades.
Meanwhile, singer Chris Martin recently stormed out of a puff-piece newspaper interview, declaring "we don't care if we sell a million less records". This parting shot proves telling about the actual scale of reinvention that Vida la Vida offers. Notice is thus served that we may not be dealing with The Faust Tapes here.
Coldplay remain thunderingly uncool just like U2, a state of affairs you suspect couldn't be altered whether they were being produced by Brian Eno, Brian Wilson, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison or John Lennon or even Elvis:
I have a terrible feeling that the reference to 42 on the song, is to the meaning of life in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, thus raising the prospect that their next album might include songs called......"This Is An Ex-Parrot and I Invented It in Camberwell and It Looks Like a Carrot."
 
Bottle Bono said:
No less a musical authority than Guy Hands has called Viva la Vida "the most important song, record and album of the year".
For once, it's hard to argue with the EMI boss: There is a sense that they finally might be about to offer something different from the increasingly windy and lachrymose stadium ballads that fuelled it.
There are intimations of artistic insurrection and tumult. The album's title may sound like something you'd find on the cocktail menu on TGI Friday, but it comes from a painting by surrealist Frida Kahlo. The cover features Delacroix's romantic depiction of the spirit of revolution, Liberty Leading the People Over the Barricades.
Meanwhile, singer Chris Martin recently stormed out of a puff-piece newspaper interview, declaring "we don't care if we sell a million less records". This parting shot proves telling about the actual scale of reinvention that Vida la Vida offers. Notice is thus served that we may not be dealing with The Faust Tapes here.
Coldplay remain thunderingly uncool just like U2, a state of affairs you suspect couldn't be altered whether they were being produced by Brian Eno, Brian Wilson or Brian Cant:
I have a terrible feeling that the reference to 42 on the song, is the meaning of life in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, thus raising the prospect that their next album might include songs called This Is An Ex-Parrot and I Invented It in Camberwell and It Looks Like a Carrot.
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You write for the Guardian?
 
popacrobat said:
Incorrect.

Bono weaves Spider-Man a web of music - Times Online

"Having composed the music for the forthcoming Broadway production of Spider-Man, Bono and the Edge will release a U2 album based on their musical adaptation of the comic books.

The singer — who styled himself The Fly on U2’s Zoo TV tour — and the guitarist have written 18 tracks for Spider-Man: The Musical, a $25m (¤16m) production that is due to open in New York in October 2009.

The band will rework some of the musical numbers and include them on the album, which is due to follow their next release this October. "

Obviously, the timeline for the U2 album is now off, but I don't doubt that they will do this.
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OK, I still think it will be a Bono/Edge side project, not a U2 project.

With musical productions, you usually get a "soundtrack" album performed by the original cast, not the guys who wrote the musical.

Anyway, it will be interesting to hear this.
 
Again: If U2 released an album in November, it wouldn't have competed with Viva La Vida at the Grammies. The only thing that would have got them into the same nomination cylce would have been a single release in September. Then they may have competed with a Coldplay single, but certainly not the album.
 
mikal said:
again, it's from @u2.com,
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no, it's from 3 different newspapers/sites @U2 is linking to... but I guess there's no point trying to change your mind...
IMO we know nothing more than we did a month ago... how easy it is to change (AGAIN) a date from february/march to october/november?
very easy, in fact they can print the same story again on U2.com, all they have to do is change 'early' to 'late' in the text :doh:
 
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