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Old 03-12-2008, 03:27 PM   #1
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I wanted to comment on deep's assertion that Edwards offered the same things as Obama, if not much more.

That's just patently false. I liked Edwards, but their platforms are NOT the same. Their healthcare plans were vastly different. Furthermore, Obama is a much more corporate candidate than Edwards ever was (regardless of how he's been raising his money). I know plenty of people who vote Dem who do not think that Edwards' populist views are viable, and as a Canadian, honestly he reminded me of the NDP in a lot of ways. Don't get me wrong, that's not a bad thing, but it also has practical implications regarding what bills can actually be passed.

So I have no idea how Edwards offered a much better plan for the same things. He didn't; they were fundamentally different candidates with different priorities.
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Edwards is an empty suit, with phonier charisma then Mitt.

Obama is a man compared to Edwards and on par with Mitt.

Edwards is a child.

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Obama is a man compared to Edwards and on par with Mitt.
For the first time, I think you may be more astute than your brother.

This is certainly an argument that he should have been advancing all along if he wanted us to get behind Hillary.
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Edwards is an empty suit, with phonier charisma then Mitt.

Obama is a man compared to Edwards and on par with Mitt.

Edwards is a child.

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now that's substance.
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[q]Would I want Hillary answering the red phone in the middle of the night? No, bloody not. The White House first responder should be a person of steady, consistent character and mood -- which describes Obama more than Hillary. And that scare ad was produced with amazing ineptitude. If it's 3 a.m., why is the male-seeming mother fully dressed as she comes in to check on her sleeping children? Is she a bar crawler or insomniac? An obsessive-compulsive housecleaner, like Joan Crawford in "Mommie Dearest"? And why is Hillary sitting at her desk in full drag and jewelry at that ungodly hour? A president should not be a monomaniac incapable of rest and perched on guard all night like Poe's baleful raven. People at the top need a relaxed perspective, which gives judgment and balance. Workaholism is an introspection-killing disease, the anxious disability of tunnel-vision middle managers.[/q]



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"This why McCain will be our next President kids.

Mark my words.

3/12/2007

diamondbrunothetruth."

You hated this guy just a few weeks ago, I understand supporting your side, but voting for someone who you spoke so ill of... I will never understand.
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Obama is a man compared to Edwards and on par with Mitt.

Edwards is a child.

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[q]Would I want Hillary answering the red phone in the middle of the night? No, bloody not. The White House first responder should be a person of steady, consistent character and mood -- which describes Obama more than Hillary. And that scare ad was produced with amazing ineptitude. If it's 3 a.m., why is the male-seeming mother fully dressed as she comes in to check on her sleeping children? Is she a bar crawler or insomniac? An obsessive-compulsive housecleaner, like Joan Crawford in "Mommie Dearest"? And why is Hillary sitting at her desk in full drag and jewelry at that ungodly hour? A president should not be a monomaniac incapable of rest and perched on guard all night like Poe's baleful raven. People at the top need a relaxed perspective, which gives judgment and balance. Workaholism is an introspection-killing disease, the anxious disability of tunnel-vision middle managers.[/q]



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Ferraro resigns

I just got an email from the Obama campaign that Ferraro resigned from Hillary's campaign. Has anyone else heard this?
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Edwards is an empty suit, with phonier charisma then Mitt.

Obama is a man compared to Edwards and on par with Mitt.

Edwards is a child.

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Oh, diamond...........
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"This why McCain will be our next President kids.

Mark my words.

3/12/2007

diamondbrunothetruth."

You hated this guy just a few weeks ago, I understand supporting your side, but voting for someone who you spoke so ill of... I will never understand.
I don't want McCain to be our next President! I'll be so pissed off if he gets elected!
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I wanted to comment on deep's assertion that Edwards offered the same things as Obama, if not much more.

That's just patently false. I liked Edwards, but their platforms are NOT the same. Their healthcare plans were vastly different. Furthermore, Obama is a much more corporate candidate than Edwards ever was (regardless of how he's been raising his money). I know plenty of people who vote Dem who do not think that Edwards' populist views are viable, and as a Canadian, honestly he reminded me of the NDP in a lot of ways. Don't get me wrong, that's not a bad thing, but it also has practical implications regarding what bills can actually be passed.

So I have no idea how Edwards offered a much better plan for the same things. He didn't; they were fundamentally different candidates with different priorities.
Obama is a corporate candidate?
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I don't want McCain to be our next President! I'll be so pissed off if he gets elected!




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