deep said:He says these little things that are just off.
He said McCain served "his" country.
He should be saying McCain served "our" country.
Thank goodness we're discussing substantive issues.
deep said:He says these little things that are just off.
He said McCain served "his" country.
He should be saying McCain served "our" country.
deep said:
Bill Clinton won W V in 92 by 13% and in 96 by 15%
African-American men seemed to understand it right away. Years ago, in the middle of the Whitewater investigation, one heard the first murmurs: white skin notwithstanding, this is our first black President. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children’s lifetime. After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald’s-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas. And when virtually all the African-American Clinton appointees began, one by one, to disappear, when the President’s body, his privacy, his unpoliced sexuality became the focus of the persecution, when he was metaphorically seized and body-searched, who could gainsay these black men who knew whereof they spoke? The message was clear: “No matter how smart you are, how hard you work, how much coin you earn for us, we will put you in your place or put you out of the place you have somehow, albeit with our permission, achieved. You will be fired from your job, sent away in disgrace, and—who knows?—maybe sentenced and jailed to boot. In short, unless you do as we say (i.e., assimilate at once), your expletives belong to us.”
For a large segment of the population who are not African-Americans or members of other minorities, the elusive story left visible tracks: from target sighted to attack, to criminalization, to lynching, and now, in some quarters, to crucifixion. The always and already guilty “perp” is being hunted down not by a prosecutor’s obsessive application of law but by a different kind of pursuer, one who makes new laws out of the shards of those he breaks.
yolland said:Both uses of Morrison's 'label' misconstrue what she meant by it anyhow, which had nothing to do with Clinton's policies nor his presumed personal views on race.
You'd really have to ask Toni Morrison why she doesn't feel DeLay, Nixon or Lott warrant the label. But I'd imagine it has something to do with the nature of their offenses, which at least in the latter two cases caused many in their own party to actively turn on them as well.Do you regret referring to Bill Clinton as the first black President?
Toni Morrison: People misunderstood that phrase. I was deploring the way in which President Clinton was being treated, vis-à-vis the sex scandal that was surrounding him. I said he was being treated like a black on the street, already guilty, already a perp. I have no idea what his real instincts are, in terms of race.
Yes,yolland said:Time Magazine, May 7, 2008
You'd really have to ask Toni Morrison why she doesn't feel DeLay, Nixon or Lott warrant the label. But I'd imagine it has something to do with the nature of their offenses, which at least in the latter two cases caused many in their own party to actively turn on them as well.
JFK was very popular with African-Americans too; why not call him the 'First Black President' instead, since it sounds as if that's how you're wanting to interpret the label?
yolland said:When had Morrison endorsed Hillary? She endorsed Obama back in January.
maycocksean said:
I guess in this part of the country it's okay to be the First Black President as long as you're not actually black.
deep said:Good ol' boys club
sexism!
deep said:Good ol' boys club
sexism!
2861U2 said:Why am I not surprised to see zero criticism in here or in the media of Obama's new religious flier. Apparently Huckabee's subliminal cross was so offensive and out of line, yet Obama is doing nothing wrong. Where's the same level of outrage?
2861U2 said:Why am I not surprised to see zero criticism in here or in the media of Obama's new religious flier. Apparently Huckabee's subliminal cross was so offensive and out of line, yet Obama is doing nothing wrong. Where's the same level of outrage?
Irvine511 said:
erm, you really, really need to stop manufacturing outrage. there wasn't any in regards to Huckabee's cross. there was the accurate analysis that the cross was fully intentional and meant to underscore Huckabee as the "Christian" candidate, which is evidently compelling to some voters who thinks that Christ votes Republican.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Are you just pretending not to see the difference?
I guess the straight talk express is running out of steam...
2861U2 said:
Well we disagree, then. The "cross" in the ad was most certainly unintentional. You still didn't answer my question. Where is the same level of attention over Obama's flier? Why can Obama bring his faith into his campaign when all you guys jumped on Huckabee and Romney for doing the same?
2861U2 said:
Well we disagree, then. The "cross" in the ad was most certainly unintentional. You still didn't answer my question. Where is the same level of attention over Obama's flier? Why can Obama bring his faith into his campaign when all you guys jumped on Huckabee and Romney for doing the same?
deep said:This election can turn on clips like that one,
first time in my adult life I am proud of my country?
plus Obama's statement about people's bitterness causing them to "cling" to their guns and "cling" to their religion.
something as simple and meaningless as not wearing a flag pin takes on added importance
Vincent Vega said:You mean making a video that doesn't look like the party were broke?