There's no way in hell the Congressional GOP will go along with it... right?
There's no way in hell the Congressional GOP will go along with it... right?
The country is literally run by lunatics.
https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/824713026783866882
So essentially the US consumer will pay for the wall through higher costs. Batshit crazy.
Fucking insane. Want to see the country collapse once more?
Strongly disagree. We need a legitimate gameplan on how to start winning seats back, how to win the Senate back, everything. And analyzing how the Democratic Party has fucked up is crucial to starting to turn the tide back around.there is plenty of blame to go around for why this happened. the arguing back and forth over which holds more water is not productive right now. ALL of the reasons being discussed in here had something to do with it. did the far left/sanders supporters stay home? did third party votes have a negative effect? was there a hidden trump vote that nobody saw? could hillary have done more in the rust belt? did the democratic party lose the optics war? did the comey letter have a debilitating effect on clinton's campaign? racism? sexism? voter suppression? gerrymandering? the left ignoring the rural working class for years?
the answer to all of those things is yes - and those of us in the opposition, no matter far left or centrist, are going to have to figure these things out.
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Analyzing how things went wrong is different than bickering back and forth about how things went wrong.Strongly disagree. We need a legitimate gameplan on how to start winning seats back, how to win the Senate back, everything. And analyzing how the Democratic Party has fucked up is crucial to starting to turn the tide back around.
Otherwise we'll have Cory Booker in 2020 and Pence will cruise to an easy win.
Agree with all of this 100%Analyzing how things went wrong is different than bickering back and forth about how things went wrong.
I agree that there needs to be a discussion of where it went wrong. I actually said that. It needs to be addressed and both sides of the table need to swallow some pride and admit certain things need to be done differently than how they want.
Fighting over it and insisting that one side or the other is the only way to go is kinda how we got into this in the first place.
In the meantime there's a drunk driver behind the wheel.
Miss me with this "well both the leftists and the traditional Democrats had their faults" line of thinking. I'm failing to see where the leftists failed us here, beyond not having the favor of rich people.Analyzing how things went wrong is different than bickering back and forth about how things went wrong.
I agree that there needs to be a discussion of where it went wrong. I actually said that. It needs to be addressed and both sides of the table need to swallow some pride and admit certain things need to be done differently than how they want.
Fighting over it and insisting that one side or the other is the only way to go is kinda how we got into this in the first place.
In the meantime there's a drunk driver behind the wheel.
So that brings me back to my original question to Irvine yesterday: Who the hell are us in the middle supposed to vote for then? Because I have ZERO interest in voting for a far left candidate.Miss me with this "well both the leftists and the traditional Democrats had their faults" line of thinking. I'm failing to see where the leftists failed us here, beyond not having the favor of rich people.
I'm capable of fighting more than one battle at once. I can fight against Trump, call my congressman and senators to file my complaints and have my voice heard, attend rallies and meetings to mobilize people (which I'm doing) ... while also trying to fight back against the centrist tendencies killing the Democratic Party. They're both worthy causes, and important ones.
I would like the opportunity to spend a full campaign season convincing you the far left is something you want to vote for.So that brings me back to my original question to Irvine yesterday: Who the hell are us in the middle supposed to vote for then? Because I have ZERO interest in voting for a far left candidate.
I present to you Exhibit# 857848302028394
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/...ews-media.html?smid=tw-share&mtrref=t.co&_r=1
I would like the opportunity to spend a full campaign season convincing you the far left is something you want to vote for.
If you want to keeping marching to the center every time, you're more than welcome to have 2016 repeat itself over and over again.
I'm happy to have it. I needed a couple of months to decompress after the election but his first few days have me recognizing that I don't have time to rest. So let's get to it.
In the meantime, it seems that this heavy resistance is at least having some impact, as Spicer had to walk back the Mexico tariff comments and Trump canceled his event to order an investigation into voter fraud.
I do, though, so if there's are centralist candidate on the Republican side, you could probably kiss my vote goodbye against a Bernie type.If you want to keeping marching to the center every time, you're more than welcome to have 2016 repeat itself over and over again.