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Old 11-14-2003, 06:28 PM   #16
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It should be mentioned that this site is meaningless in terms of influencing the Vatican. Remember that the Catholic Church is an autocracy, and they'll stick with their stubborn beliefs until the very end.

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Old 11-14-2003, 09:19 PM   #17
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As far as I can tell it's based on an antiquated notion of procreation, where the the sperm contains 100% of the life and teh woman is just an incubator. This is why birthcontrol, matrubation and male homosexuality were anathema for such a long time, as all three "wasted Seed" and to do so was to kill a potential life. THough science has shown that the sperm is only half the code and thus will never become human on its own, and that most of them die without making a life the old view continues. Hence birth contriol being held to be on the same level as abortion. That's my theory atleast. Plus procreation until pretty recent times was seen as one's duty to the human race and your people/nation.

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Old 11-15-2003, 10:34 AM   #18
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Melon--perhaps, perhaps not. Speaking out is still important. That's how change has always happened.

Julles--what's the verse? How does it relate to our chat? Talk to us.

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Old 11-15-2003, 11:16 AM   #19
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I agree, Sherry, speaking out makes an impact on people, even if it's not necessarily the hierarchy. Change *has* happened.
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This is why birthcontrol, matrubation and male homosexuality were anathema for such a long time, as all three "wasted Seed" and to do so was to kill a potential life.
So does that mean it's only guys who aren't allowed to masturbate or be gay? Guess I'll just be grateful for being born a girl.
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