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Old 09-02-2008, 04:52 PM   #151
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No news of any kind from the U2 camp by October 1st. The official site does not apply to this.

And I'm not adamant, just confident. And I've said why many times. It's hardly a stretch of the imagination.
I see your points and I don't really find them to be invalid, i was just curious to your date that you would set.

Earlier this week I was about 70/30 that it would be this year, now i'm more towards 50/50. Granted, ATU2's article (blurb) was an unnamed source. Still just plants seeds of doubt. Anyway. I would think if we don't have any type of word in by Sept. 15th that we probably won't get something this year. But you never really know. I just wish they wouldn't be so secretive. What's so bad about letting the (rabid) fanbase know whats up? Especially after four years.

Anyway, fingers crossed everyday for an announcement.
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Seriously, I actually think the doubters have to justify their opinions more so than the 2008 camp. It doesn't make any sense to me that it would be a 2009 release unless they have a pretty serious problem. Which doesn't make any sense in and of itself.
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I suppose for once we hope Mr PAul $$$ lives up to his name.
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October/November 2008 has been mentioned like a broken record for months and months now, so a big problem would have to have occurred. And I don't see that having happened. Edit: But if it did happen, we are looking at either March, May, or November 2009. All of which would be painful waits.
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Seriously, I actually think the doubters have to justify their opinions more so than the 2008 camp. It doesn't make any sense to me that it would be a 2009 release unless they have a pretty serious problem. Which doesn't make any sense in and of itself.
i've justified my reasons all over this thread. just read the last 6 pages.
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October/November 2008 has been mentioned like a broken record for months and months now, so a big problem would have to have occurred. And I don't see that having happened.
STOP THE PRESSES!

Larry dropped his drumstick at 6:37 during Moment Of Surrender. Bono didn't notice it until he listened to it cranked up to 11 on his stereo. Time to start the sessions all over. Less passion this time, Larry.
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There isn't one. They were discussing the tracklisting in late July/early August, claimed the album was finished, played it in their houses/backyards, and now, all of a sudden, none of that matters because they became unsatisfied with the album when they were drinking martinis in Bora Bora.

It's all hype, guys. Don't fall for it. McGuinne$$ won't let us down.
Exactly . Bono is surely not going to invite all his chums round to his place and say "Hey guys, gather around, I've got the new U2 album to play you! It's not finished yet, we'd really like to tweak a few bits here and there, change the sequence, come up with a title, and blah and blah and blah. In fact it actually pains me to listen to it in the form it's in, but I'm going to blast it out so that all and sundry can hear!!!"

Let's wait for the Apple launch, if not then the RED launch, and let's not forget that Under a Blood Red Sky is released on September the 29th, and any new album announcements before that is going to put the remaster into the shade and thus affect its sales.

Re:innovative new ideas - maybe the new single will have been shot in 3D, using CGI U2 characters, and released in your local IMAX
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October/November 2008 has been mentioned like a broken record for months and months now, so a big problem would have to have occurred. And I don't see that having happened. Edit: But if it did happen, we are looking at either March, May, or November 2009. All of which would be painful waits.
but who's been mentioning Oct/Nov more? Us? Or the band?
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Let's wait for the Apple launch, if not then the RED launch, and let's not forget that Under a Blood Red Sky is released on September the 29th, and any new album announcements before that is going to put the remaster into the shade and thus affect its sales.


The CGI IMAX idea is hilarious. It would be the most expensive failure since Waterworld.
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but who's been mentioning Oct/Nov more? Us? Or the band?
i've been mentioning the spring for months

i really thought we'd have concrete news by now though. or even more rumors than we have. really, all the rumors in the past month have just come from bono playing 4-5 songs outside his house in france. if he didn't do that, we would be 10000% in the dark. and then everybody would be in a tizzy because of the edge interview. but since there were about 9000 articles spawned from the beach clips, it means the albums coming out in 2 months

we've heard Fall 2008, sure. but we've more recently heard 2009. And given that it's already Sept. and there are whispers of 2009, I Don't know how anybody can really see this as a good sign.
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I was wondering...If atu2.com has been hearing that the band members are not happy with several of the songs, why did they wait to post anything about it until this interview showed up?
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I was wondering...If atu2.com has been hearing that the band members are not happy with several of the songs, why did they wait to post anything about it until this interview showed up?
Probably because they thought it was a bunch of bullshit until that guy from Q said there's a possibility that the album wouldn't be ready in time.
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i've been mentioning the spring for months

i really thought we'd have concrete news by now though. or even more rumors than we have. really, all the rumors in the past month have just come from bono playing 4-5 songs outside his house in france. if he didn't do that, we would be 10000% in the dark. and then everybody would be in a tizzy because of the edge interview. but since there were about 9000 articles spawned from the beach clips, it means the albums coming out in 2 months

we've heard Fall 2008, sure. but we've more recently heard 2009. And given that it's already Sept. and there are whispers of 2009, I Don't know how anybody can really see this as a good sign.
exactly! i couldn't have said it any better. i think hope and emotion are playing a big role in convincing people that the album is coming out in November.
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but who's been mentioning Oct/Nov more? Us? Or the band?
The band (I can recall Adam saying that) and people in the studio (someone remember names?). I'm not going to bother digging up sources, but I'm sure someone has them handy.

Also, your explanations consisted mainly in just finding a couple points of doubt in an otherwise very strong case for 2008 (and they are also likely conjecture on the part of journalists--at best).

What I meant by saying that the burden is on the doubters is this: I want a coherent explanation of why/how the album could be released in 2009. January is simply too close to late November to release it then. If its ready in January then that means they could cut their vacation 3 days short and have a tracklist meeting and get it out in Nov/Dec. Which they WOULD absolutely do if the issue was a minor one. If its bigger than tracklisting, then why are they shooting a music video? And why are Eno/Lanois/Lillywhite getting so worked up over it? Lillywhite isn't even producing the damn thing and he thinks its the best ever, which means he's heard a pretty finished product. Therefore I don't see how there could be a major problem.

Honestly, I don't think I'm generally overoptimistic, but I can't see a rational explanation for pushing the album to 2009 given all the information we have at this point. Do you see where I'm coming from? I just want to see some explanations besides "@U2 heard rumblings" and the Q article. I want to hear why I might be wrong based on a careful assessment of the entire album-making situation--only because I genuinely can't come up with one myself.
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Probably because they thought it was a bunch of bullshit until that guy from Q said there's a possibility that the album wouldn't be ready in time.
Great point! I don't know if I believe everything atu2.com has been saying. First they say the single is called sexy boots. And now they say Get On Your Boots. They seem to get information backwards. Oh well. I just want some new U2.
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