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Old 12-03-2007, 09:35 PM   #31
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Just because Yes has a different style from Pink Floyd doesn't make either any less progressive. Doesn't matter how complex or simple it is.

Just like Porcupine Tree is different, yet also progressive.
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But aren't bands like Yes, King Crimson and (early) Genesis wayyy more prog than Pink Floyd ever got? I always considered Floyd to be more.. just plain experimental... (or a genre on to their own.. space rock ) than prog.
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Floyd borders the line between pure psychedelia and prog rock, especially pre-Wish You Were Here.

The Doors, por ejemplo, could be considered progressive I believe, but they're definitely more "psychedelic" than that, you know?
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But aren't bands like Yes, King Crimson and (early) Genesis wayyy more prog than Pink Floyd ever got? I always considered Floyd to be more.. just plain experimental... (or a genre on to their own.. space rock ) than prog.
No. Experimental is part of progressive rock music.

The other bands never obtained the huge crossover success that Pink Floyd had (Yes and Genesis did have a number of hits later when they were more pop-oriented), so that's probably why you view them differently.
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I prefer Peter Gabriel's solo material way more than Gabriel-Genesis or the poppy Collins-Genesis.

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See... I view prog as more complex instrumentation than what is found on SOYCD. It's a gorgeous song but I'm not sure how prog it is. Now something like Siberian Khatru is ridiculously blatantly prog!
Prog isn't just how many notes you can play in any given minute, though. That's why I think SOYCD is a fantastic example of prog. It's spacey, atmospheric, and the music has room to breathe and expand. You're not getting buffeted by an unstoppable wave of notes.
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And it was only a matter of time (no pun intended, Dream Theater fans) before this got posted.

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Are the Flaming Lips prog?
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Not at all if you ask me, though it seems a number of prog fans like them.
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I was kind of hoping you'd say "yes" so I could at least say I like more than one prog band. I'm working on getting the King Crimson album, but the one I got wasn't playable on my Mac. So I'm working on another version. Looking forward to it. Thanks.
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Great thread -- The thin line between psychedelic and prog and then all the sub-progs of subprog out there!!!

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Great name for a record label: SubProg
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I like it. Like indie meets prog.

Battles would be perfect for such a label.
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Like indie meets prog.
...which actually exists! Have you ever heard The Island by The Decemberists?

This was the best I could come up with on YouTube:
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I've only heard a couple of songs by the Decemberists, and that's not one of them. I'll have to check it out.

And indie and prog together definitely exists. I would say that bands like Explosions In The Sky, Mogwai, and Sigur Ros would be some fine examples (even if they are considered more on the experimental/post-rock side, I still think it's progressive). I also mentioned Battles, which although totally different, have prog elements incorporated into their songs. Cool stuff.
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