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Old 12-22-2008, 05:32 PM   #751
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I stated earlier in the thread that I'd support GCUs having the same privleges as marrieds stopping at adoptions.

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Fine. Would you vote for it? Not simply support it, but actually put pencil to paper and vote for it.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:01 PM   #752
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Adoption is not a feature unique to marriage.

Or are we going to ban single people from adopting now too?

It's best for these children to be in orphanages or foster care.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:15 PM   #753
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Still not an answer.

Why won't the limited rights crowd ever answer the direct questions?
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:56 PM   #754
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Why won't the limited rights crowd ever answer the direct questions?
You don't get it. diamond is all for FULL* legal rights.



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Old 12-22-2008, 08:43 PM   #755
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I don't know how much is genetic or learned, but I did find this about a young man with gay proclivities that had a beautiful out of body experience met Christ and was able to marshall his sexual desires and serve God as a Catholic Priest.
If men are forced to retard their own sexuality there will be dangerous consequences, the child rapists in the Church are the nasty evidence of this.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:27 PM   #756
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If men are forced to retard their own sexuality there will be dangerous consequences, the child rapists in the Church are the nasty evidence of this.
whole different topic cowboy.



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Adoption is not...
a right, it's a privilege.

and altho single ppl are allowed to adopt, that is not my preference.

and if i ran an orphanage....nevermind.


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a right, it's a privilege.

and altho single ppl are allowed to adopt, that is not my preference.

and if i ran an orphanage....nevermind.


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a right, it's a privilege.

and altho single ppl are allowed to adopt, that is not my preference.
In a world full of unwanted and abused children, I have to say I don't care one iota about your preference and my feeling is neither do the children.

So how is it that you will prevent somebody in a civil union from a single-person adoption?
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I stated earlier in the thread that I'd support GCUs having the same privleges as marrieds stopping at adoptions.

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Strikes me as disingenuous to encourage people to push for legislation that you wouldn't fully support.
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No, its very relevant, the anti-sexual character of religious organisations has harmed a lot of people over the years and it shouldn't be hushed up.
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No, its very relevant, the anti-sexual character of religious organisations has harmed a lot of people over the years and it shouldn't be hushed up.
You can look at this 2 ways:

1-A person of Faith can marshall his sexual impulses and desires -the majority of Catholic Priests, Nuns and Monks have proven this.

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2-Man doesn't necessarily need to be celibate to serve God.

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Strikes me as disingenuous to encourage people to push for legislation that you wouldn't fully support.
or you're trying to force an agenda in it's totality on the majority of Americans that they wouldn't support.

The all or nothing approach has hurt the Gay movement thus far.



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You can look at this 2 ways:

1-A person of Faith can marshall his sexual impulses and desires -the majority of Catholic Priests, Nuns and Monks have proven this.

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2-Man doesn't necessarily need to be celibate to serve God.

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Or you can look at it as the attempted suppression of an important part of our humanity, one which has harmed people and must be reevaluated.

Celibacy may guarantee the church material possessions, but it hurts actual people.
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or you're trying to force an agenda
Once again, it's completely disingenuous to tell people they should push for legislation that you would vote down.

It must be more comfortable to say you're against an agenda, even if that "agenda" is the pursuit of equality in the eyes of the law, an area where individual religious beliefs should hold absolutely no sway over those who hold different beliefs.

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The all or nothing approach has hurt the Gay movement thus far.
And blacks should have been happy to start with shared drinking fountains first. How dare they think they deserved equality full stop, eh?
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