Von Schloopen
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Exactly, not much of note since the mid 80s.
And where did I say selling lots of records= no integrity? Looks like you missed that point too. Here's the quote again:
“We were on [Interscope]. And I have had Jimmy Iovine, the president of that label, come up to me on every record from With Teeth onwards saying I should do some sort of urban thing — it was Timbaland for a while, then it was Pharrell for a while — because ‘that’s how you sell records.’ The idea seemed so preposterous and insulting.”
The NIN example shows Iovine to be a man of extremely poor judgement, ignorant of the artists he deals with, and crassly commercial, and without integrity. Not because he wants hits, but because he is pressures people to sacrifice their integrity to get them. Sadly, I know that to a lot of people that's an outdated concept, but it really does matter. Records last forever, but hits are fleeting. Very few songs enter the canon, so to tailor something that will last forever to a moment is absurd.
Iovine seems like the kind of guy who'd have pressured Scorsese to make a Porky's film because it would be a hit.
As an aside, NIN don't need help to get hits. You think he'd know that, working for their label and all, never mind being a person who is supposedly knowledgeable about music.
I'm curious to see how you'll misinterpret this.
Right. Not much of note since the 80s. But still a ton worth noting. That's the point.
Now that we've got that out of the way.
Did Reznor do a record with any of those artists? Was he forced into it? Mentioning something to him is pressing him to sacrifice his integrity?
Was is Reznor sitting across from Iovine in a dark, smoke-filled office, Jimmy flanked by hulking bodyguards "Trent, it really would be in your best interest to record a big hit. You've got your family to think about."
Or was it "hey Trent you should do an urban thing with Timbaland. I think it could be a big hit. I could set it up." Trent:"No thanks, I'm not interested in that." Jimmy- "Cool. Just though I'd see if you were into that. Good luck with the record."
Reznor is notoriously self-centered. I can see him being insulted at the slightest disconnect with his views.
Got any other examples of Iovine doing the devil's work? Or is a cranky Trent quote all the evidence needed to declare the man has no integrity?