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Amen
stray dog said:The hypocrisy of Bush is laughable...he signed a law as governor of Texas that allowed hospitals to disconnect the feeding tubes of indigent patients even AGAINST the will of their loved ones if they were unable to pay for their loved ones care...yes they had a choice to move them to anothere care facility, but that choice was not there for those without the means...in other words life for the rich, death for the poor...Where was the religious right when this was happening?
Irvine511 said:just wondering ... where have all those who view Terri as alive and the removal of the feeding tube as tantamount to murder gone?
indra said:
Probably feel beat up by you bad, bad man you.
nothing like facts to get in the way...melon said:
Yes, she has. She has a brain stem and dead cerebral cortex. It's clearly dead too, because it decomposed and there is spinal fluid where brain once was. With only a brain stem, she is not conscious; the brain stem only transmits involuntary reflexes.
She cannot go to a treatment center, because she does not have enough brain function to be in a treatment center.
I worked on an entire website on terminal illness and death back in 2001. I learned more about death than I ever really needed or wanted to know. It is not an "excrutiating death." For the dying, it is actually "excrutiating" to force-feed or force-hydrate someone who does not want it. In hospices, before they understood this, there were often cases of patients drowning of accumulated fluid in their lungs, because a dying person loses the ability to process fluids.
Melon
bcrt2000 said:all i can think of is Miracle Drug right now...
Irvine511 said:
now, now ... let's give credit where it is due --- to Melon.
he *owned* this thread.
Irvine511 said:
that's "bitchy queens" to you, mister.
trevster2k said:There is no cerebellum to be active, it has atrophied, disappeared, vanished, poof, gone, not to be seen. There is a big empty space in her head filled with spinal fluid which used to be her cerebellum.
Unless they can grow a new cerebellum for her, no hope ever for recovery.
Read melon's post. He is correct.
trevster2k said:Oh excuse me, cerebral cortex is gone not cerebellum, I ain't a doctor either.
Well, I've stated my stance, and I'm still reading responses. I don't care for swaying anybody, really, but I find it interesting that both sides act as though Terri is on their side. I'm actually tired of discussing this case, and feel that we will never know how Terri feels about it, but we can only assume that we're on her side. I have doubts that they will plug her back in, as much as I resent the decision, I have begun to move on.Irvine511 said:just wondering ... where have all those who view Terri as alive and the removal of the feeding tube as tantamount to murder gone?
as for what Terri wanted we have what she told her husband. The courts have found him credible...Macfistowannabe said:Well, I've stated my stance, and I'm still reading responses. I don't care for swaying anybody, really, but I find it interesting that both sides act as though Terri is on their side. I'm actually tired of discussing this case, and feel that we will never know how Terri feels about it, but we can only assume that we're on her side. I have doubts that they will plug her back in, as much as I resent the decision, I have begun to move on.
Macfistowannabe said:Well, I've stated my stance, and I'm still reading responses. I don't care for swaying anybody, really, but I find it interesting that both sides act as though Terri is on their side. I'm actually tired of discussing this case, and feel that we will never know how Terri feels about it, but we can only assume that we're on her side. I have doubts that they will plug her back in, as much as I resent the decision, I have begun to move on.
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (Reuters) - A federal judge refused to order the resumption of feeding for brain-damaged Florida woman Terri Schiavo on Tuesday in a blow to the parents, who have support from the U.S. Congress and President Bush in trying to keep her alive.
Irvine511 said:
the one good thing that i've had come out of this is that i sent an email to my parents asking them to pull the plug on me should i ever be a vegetable. i also asked two friends to promise to smother me should i become a vegetable. they asked me to do the same.
Irvine511 said:
i also didn't sleep well last night. am full of bile and venom today.
look out! irvine is very grumpy this morning.