achtung_girl
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and this dutch goalkeeper is ! a goal for italy would have been important in the end. now they are last in their group.
Holland were 8/1 to win Euro 2008, i think they will be favourites after tonights performance.
apparently it has to do with that no dutch player was involved with him going behind the lineI don't see how that Italian player off court counts.
Great result!!
Got some info on that first goal which was explained on TSN here in Canada by an official from the Canadian football association. There is a grey area in this but here is what he said -
-The defender went off the pitch after a collision with his keeper and had the opportunity to come back on to the pitch. Therefore he was still active.
-If a player leaves the pitch or stays off the pitch uninjured he can be charged with unsportsmanlike conduct.
-The grey area is, how injured was this player that he couldn't come back on to the pitch?
I think this will be one of those things that will be debated to death. It think it really comes down to the referees discretion. Either way Holland won and Italy is in last place in the group.
apparently it has to do with that no dutch player was involved with him going behind the line
no one injured him
if this was offside then it would mean a defender would be able to create an offside situation by stepping behind the goalline
bingoso the referee deciced not to interrupt the situation, so panucci is still an active player.
most referees disagree and say it wasn't offsideMost TV commentators, as seen in this thread, say that's not the case and offside happened.
What does it matter who got him off court ? Italian goalie pushed him off court - so he does not count as an active player. Are then all the backup team players sitting on the bench playing along to the 11 men on court, too ?
If he does, then there's nothing wrong with the goal and we shouldn't be even having this discussion. Most TV commentators, as seen in this thread, say that's not the case and offside happened.
No, the Italians will now start diving like they're going for gold in the olympics. I bet there will be 'professional fouls' aplenty.
...anyone care to remember what they did to the Aussies in the World Cup...hmmm...
most referees disagree and say it wasn't offside
but i never argue a commentator's right to talk out of his bum
The best defense is a good offense.
...anyone care to remember what they did to the Aussies in the World Cup...hmmm...
From the BBC, here is what the officials said,
Chairman of Austria's refereeing commission Gerhard Kapl backed the decision by Swedish referee Peter Frojdfeldt and said it was "100% correct, without any doubt".
Kapl pointed out that article 11.4.1. of the refereeing code stipulated that "an opposing player cannot be offside when one of the last two defenders has left the field of play".
He explained the rule was brought in to stop players deliberately stepping off the field of play to make an opponent offside.
So that must settle it then. It's a legal goal and van Nistelrooy was not offside.
I remember!! That's why I hope that Italy gets sent home in utter disgrace!
Italy!!!