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Old 08-18-2001, 12:14 PM   #21
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Wait a sec.

If God is love, doesn't loving somebody so deeply as you love your mate/spouse bring you closer to God?

Just my athest 0,02
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Old 08-18-2001, 01:22 PM   #22
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by the way, I just learned that I got a job that I was after.
Monday morning, I'm a taxpaying American again!


Maybe you'll meet the future Mrs. Trash Can at your new job!!

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Wait a sec.
If God is love, doesn't loving somebody so deeply as you love your mate/spouse bring you closer to God?
Just my athest 0,02
Maybe it should, but it doesn't always work that way. My point is that not everyone is meant to have someone, and that Paul tells us that if we aren't "burning with desire", it is best not to be married. There's nothing wrong with having someone, but at the same time, there's nothing wrong with not having someone.


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Old 08-19-2001, 12:26 AM   #24
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Like O2, you give good advice. (Bunions, remember?)

Of course I remember, I still think you have one of the best sigs on interference. BTW, gonna have the surgery??


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Thinkin' about it. I'll see my doc next Friday. If I do it, and I'm leaning toward that, I'll have to wait until next summer when I'm off.

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Old 08-19-2001, 01:42 AM   #26
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I have to disagree with you on some points, Like O2 (and I don't think happens much between us, does it?)
I don't necessarily think that God wants everyone of us to find someone. I think we all need other people, but not ncessarily a spouse. I, for one, know that I am not built for a romantic relationship. And I'm 34 years old, so I am pretty confident about that by now.

80's, I've just realized what the problem is for you and Trash Can....you both live in the wrong city. I think it's time for you both to move a bit further South in the state, where we women know how to take care of our men!

Everyone just settle down, I'm kiddin'! Actually, there's a chance that my family may be moving to your neck of the woods, so I better behave myself.

Seriously, 80's your right and I should have been more clear....I don't think that EVERYONE is meant to be married. And I do not know you or Trash Can so I can not/will not presume I do and make statements based on that presumption. However, *nervous gulp* I wonder if both of you aren't "copping out" a bit.

To say that you aren't "built" for a romantic relationship sounds so extreme. What about that "friend girl" who you spent your birthday with? A romantic relationship might be alot of hard work, focus, effort...but I bet it could be "for you" if you wanted it to be. And you might not want that and that's okay too. But if you do, I but you could.

And Trash, how will you know when you have waited long enough, when you are WHOLE? Is there some test I missed before I said "I do"? You've mentioned selfish a couple of times, I just have a tough time seeing you this way based on how you respond to other people....selfish is one of the last words I'd pick to describe you.

However, I should point out that the hour is late and there is a good chance I have no idea what I'm talking about. The three of us can meet at some bar after a 3rd Leg U2 concert and solve the problems of the world then.



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Bunions... and Finding a mate. Do the two go together???

Anyway. Claire: I am selfish. I'm also giving... but not as much as I should be. Friendgirl, you don't know me. What you read here is mostly me in my "best behaviour".
Seriously, I've got some growing up to do before I can seriously consider a mate.
By the way, there is a very sexy woman at my new job. She is intelligent (BIG turn on). She's funny, warm and sweet. She has a great smile, sparkling eyes, and... well... she's slender and ... she has a nice bod.
I've met several of women that fit this "type" and I always find them quite attractive, but there's always the same problem.
What's the problem? You say.

She's a lesbian.



My line of work attracts many gay women ( I dont know why).
Boy... I need to find ANOTHER type to be attracted to. I DON'T stand a chance like this.

Oh, About "coping out"... Ok, sure. It's scarey and I know I have fear of commitement.
But I also know I would cause the one I would "love" much pain with my immature behaviour.


... I working on it! Ok, Claire???

As far as scripture... What timing, recent scripture in Church dealt with relationships. I forget what Gospel it it, but its when Jesus gets asked about divorce and He talks about when a man and a woman become one. And also about the fact that some people are meant never to marry, and remain celebate!

Ok, I have to go... Mr. Kinko is making a fortune off of me.

Peace... and love.
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There are many goodlooking, single women where I work. Too bad they all hate my sorry ass and won't have anything to do with me. But yeah, a significant other would be a good thing to have.

Wait, what was the question?
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Bunions... and Finding a mate. Do the two go together???


Wait until you've been married 12 years....you'll be amazed my friend, AMAZED!!



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Love is incredibly complicated, especially when you start adding the Christian dimension into it. I don't even want to get started on that.

But true love is never wrong. There's a passage in Romans that says that as well, that 'love is the fulfillment of the Law.' It's obvious that the definition of what constitutes true love has changed since Biblical times--hence, a lot of sometimes nonsensical prohibitions they saw as being contrary to love--but if you honestly have love in your mind and heart when doing anything, how can it be wrong?

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Wait until you've been married 12 years....you'll be amazed my friend, AMAZED!!

Speak it, sister!!!!!

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Noone ever NEEDS anyone. Human love is the most beautiful thing on this Earth, but not necessarily ROMANTIC love. I happen to emphasize the importance of the individual and his or her independency... the 'need' for someone makes a person weak, the fact that you have to rely on someone to 'complete' you is misleading; all you need is your own inner fortitude, nothing else.

"I can live with or without you..."
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Here's an interesting quote:

A soulmate is someone who has locks that fit our keys, and keys to fit our locks. When we feel safe enough to open the locks, our truest selves step out and we can be completely and honestly who we are; we can be loved for who we are and not for who we're pretending to be. Each unveils the best part of the other. No matter what else goes wrong around us, with that one person we're safe in our own paradise. Our soulmate is someone who shares our deepest longings, our sense of direction. When we're two balloons, and together our direction is up, chances are we've found the right person. Our soulmate is the one who makes life come to life.
-Richard Bach, The Bridge Across Forever

For me, that is exactly why I want to find a soulmate. But so far the people who seem to have all the keys to my locks don't have the right set of locks for my keys...


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Old 08-29-2001, 07:15 PM   #34
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Speak it, sister!!!!!


We know all too well, don't we martha?!?



12 years of marriage =
Bunions
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Clogged milk ducts (if you have to ask, never mind)
Poison ivy
Morning sickness
The flu
Allergic reactions
Sleep disorders
Migraines....
and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on...



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I know that I want someone for the wrong reasons as well right now.

I miss the closeness, and the friendship that comes with it all.

But, working on myself right now is more the priority.

At least I have that much figured out!

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Old 08-29-2001, 09:41 PM   #36
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I know that I want someone for the wrong reasons as well right now.

But, working on myself right now is more the priority.

At least I have that much figured out!

Can I play interference match-maker?

LarryMullen's_POPAngel meet Trash Can. Trash Can, this is Ms. LarryMullen's_POPAngel.


Lordy, it sounds like you two have alot in common.


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Eileeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen...

quit, friendgirl!


But... just to be neighborly...

PopAngel, Hi!
Good for you! You have your priorities straight! Your time WILL come! Just keep working on what matters; love God, yourself and ALL others and all good things will flow!

Peace!

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Hi Trash!

Thanks for being so nice! I know that day will come when all the right things collide, and I hope that day comes for you soon as well.

I guess we "still haven't found" what we're looking for!

Take care, Trash!

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Hmmm... I HAVE already "found what I am looking for"!
And because I have found it, I am now working on myself, and then perhaps I will choose to find someone.



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... BUT, I still want Wynona Rider!... Is that a bad thing???

yeah, unfortunately, for the rest of us, it is



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