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Old 02-26-2019, 06:56 PM   #981
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Is Matt Gaetz the same asshole from Florida who wanted to kick out the Parkland fathers from public congressional hearings on gun control (they stood up and yelled when he claimed that the biggest issue in gun control is the lack of a wall on the southern border)?
Yes, he's the same asshole.
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He has an extraordinarily punchable face.
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Is Matt Gaetz the same asshole from Florida who wanted to kick out the Parkland fathers from public congressional hearings on gun control (they stood up and yelled when he claimed that the biggest issue in gun control is the lack of a wall on the southern border)?


I don’t know if Matt Gaetz did that but there’s no reason to believe he didn’t. He’s a mega dbag.
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Yes I do remember this now actually. He also went on some rant about the wall in their faces. Like they cared about a wall.
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Don’t you think you’ve gone a little off the deep end
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Twitter has banned Jacob Wohl!

He's "famous" for that pitiful attempt at smearing Robert Mueller with a fake harrassment claim. He's also "known" for posting tweets claiming liberals at various hipster coffee houses in LA are secret Trump supporters. I for one will miss dunking on him repeatedly.
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He and Laura Loomer are going to have an adorable date handcuffed to the headquarters of Twitter in bulletproof vests.
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His father is also batshit crazy, which makes sense because any normal parent would have locked him up in their basement by now.
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i guess the "bone spurs" deferment finally expired.

https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status...06289376411648
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Well well well...

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The thing about the big reveals on this particular reality show is that we already know what they are.

Is anything remotely surprising in Cohen’s statement? We all already knew all this.

Am glad be brought the receipts, tho.
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Does anyone doubt this?
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i don't know what i expected cohen's voice to sound like, but it definitely wasn't "bit part as muscle for paulie walnuts".
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I love unlimited data. I get to livestream this hearing while commuting to work.
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Sanders definitely has "fans," and depending on how it's expressed it can range from amusing to irritating to actively harmful, but that is part for the course for really any politician who has fans.

I would argue someone who loves Hillary Clinton is more about fandom. Because she stood for very little; most of her positions changed at various times throughout her career. There are no defining policies or positions that people want to carry on for her legacy; it's just an archetype.

Whereas the "fandom" of Sanders is rooted, for many, in the fact that he is the ONLY national politician to take many of the stands he has in our lifetimes, and many of them are backed up in decades of consistently fighting for them. His stances on the economy, healthcare, and the environment are all examples of this. I do not think there is a great yearning from young people to love a 70-something cranky white man from New England. It really comes down to the fact that he is offering something people have wanted and have consistently been told is not possible by people who lack the creativity or the interest in thinking of ways to change the world.
So someone that respects Clinton's lifetime of working for those who are underprivileged and marginalized - actual real work, that resulted in real results, are somehow delusional "fans". But those that are fans of Sanders, who has spoken about certain ideals, but has yielded little to no results are on much firmer ground?
Are either of them clean of making certain decisions in their long career of that have not aligned as "progressive"? Most certainly not.
Are there delusional and apologetic "fans" for both of them. Sure.
But Clinton is no longer running. Sanders is picking up where he left off, and i hope that he has the wisdom to stop just preaching on inspirational ideas of what should be, and as Headache and others have said, to give some concrete plans to fund these ideas, and how to implement them in a (currently) divided legislative branch.

I will stand by Sanders if he is the nominee. I will stand by any other Dem that gets the nomination. I will drive voters to the polls, I will phone bank, like i did for the last two elections.
I am behind most of Sanders ideas. But I think everyone deserves actual concrete plans of how to implement them, and not just cheer on aspirations from the podium.
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i don't know what i expected cohen's voice to sound like, but it definitely wasn't "bit part as muscle for paulie walnuts".
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I‘m choosing to stay a bit “out of the loop” on all things 45, but this testimony is quite something.

Cohen has nothing left and no reason to lie anymore.
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So someone that respects Clinton's lifetime of working for those who are underprivileged and marginalized - actual real work, that resulted in real results, are somehow delusional "fans". But those that are fans of Sanders, who has spoken about certain ideals, but has yielded little to no results are on much firmer ground?
Are either of them clean of making certain decisions in their long career of that have not aligned as "progressive"? Most certainly not.
Are there delusional and apologetic "fans" for both of them. Sure.
But Clinton is no longer running. Sanders is picking up where he left off, and i hope that he has the wisdom to stop just preaching on inspirational ideas of what should be, and as Headache and others have said, to give some concrete plans to fund these ideas, and how to implement them in a (currently) divided legislative branch.

I will stand by Sanders if he is the nominee. I will stand by any other Dem that gets the nomination. I will drive voters to the polls, I will phone bank, like i did for the last two elections.
I am behind most of Sanders ideas. But I think everyone deserves actual concrete plans of how to implement them, and not just cheer on aspirations from the podium.
You are saying Sanders is a failure for not having single-handedly overturned capitalism during his career?

It's easy for someone like Clinton "to get things done" when she stands for perpetuating the status quo. The kinds of "change" she stood for were tantamount to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I unequivocally support whatever good work she did, but she also did an ungodly amount of bad. Her foreign policy is atrocious, from both a moral and practical standpoint. The decisions she and Obama made in Libya have had irreversibly negative impacts throughout the world.

Sanders is having a late career resurgence because things have gotten so bad in America under capitalism that the tide is turning. An entire generation of Cold War attitudes rendered socialism taboo in the United States. But the grinding, unceasing march of capitalism has placed all future generations, starting with the millennial, in an untenable situation going forward. The social safety net has been slashed at nearly every opportunity since Reagan. And capitalism is unwilling to address that because there is no incentive to do so. Making employees rely on employers for healthcare is, simply put, good business.

I also think there is a misunderstanding here about the order of operations. Technocracy is not politics. What you stand for matters more than how you will do it, when it comes to trying to build a movement. The GOP has no moral ground to stand on, and one should never emulate their policies, nor their tactics of race baiting. But they do understand how politics works. You cannot be shy about how it works and how power must be wielded to yield results. If the GOP is against things that are morally right, you must paint them as an enemy, and you cannot bargain with them. It's why they are successful: they don't ask about how much things cost, they don't ask about whether or not they should put the most extreme judges on the bench, they don't ask about whether gerrymandering is morally right, they don't ask about whether or not voter fraud is a real issue when they roll back people's rights. They just win elections and do what they want.

The issue is not that the Democrats don't know how to do what they want. Sanders' problem isn't a lack of pragmatism. The problem is that the Dems do not want what the voters want in too many areas.
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Meanwhile, Cohen's testimony about the $60,000 painting paired up with this tweet is too fucking good.

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