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Old 01-28-2019, 12:34 PM   #261
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Guys, Ann Coulter can be really mean sometimes!
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And in two weeks we'll do it all over again!! Let's call it Season Two of the Government Shutdown
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There won't be another shutdown.

Right now the best exit strategy for Trump is to not come to a deal because any deal he comes to will not satisfy his base. So he can't agree with Nancy "Nancy" and declares a national emergency. This will fail in the courts immediately based on precedent and plain common sense but the court battles will take a while, there will be many appeals all the while nothing is being built (nevermind land being expropriated via eminent domain). And that's how the wall will die a quiet and slow death, never to be spoken of again.
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There won't be another shutdown.

Right now the best exit strategy for Trump is to not come to a deal because any deal he comes to will not satisfy his base. So he can't agree with Nancy "Nancy" and declares a national emergency. This will fail in the courts immediately based on precedent and plain common sense but the court battles will take a while, there will be many appeals all the while nothing is being built (nevermind land being expropriated via eminent domain). And that's how the wall will die a quiet and slow death, never to be spoken of again.
And when it dies he can blame the deep state and reassure his base that it's all part of Q's master plan.
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And the next time a white kid takes his parents’ assault weapons and shreds another classroom of first graders into hamburger because that’s what the NRA wants, President Harris can declare a state of emergency and confiscate all the high powered weaponry owned by white men everywhere from sea to shiny sea.
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Although, we’ll absolutely have SEVERAL more school shootings before November 2020, lol.
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And the next time a white kid takes his parents’ assault weapons and shreds another classroom of first graders into hamburger because that’s what the NRA wants, President Harris can declare a state of emergency and confiscate all the high powered weaponry owned by white men everywhere from sea to shiny sea.
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Excuse me, it was Hamberder.
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So, what do we all think about Howard Schultz potentially running as an Independent?

Consensus seems to be that nobody wants it, that it will siphon votes away from the Democratic nominee, dilute the anti-Trump vote, and get the clown re-elected. I think I agree.
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I've always been in favor of having an independent candidate.

Not this time.
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electing rich businessmen with zero political experience is working out so well this time, why not try it again with the next guy too?
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It's a great example of rich white man privilege. He feels the need to run. Why? Because he's rich and has nothing better to do?

At least Ralph Nader had worked for many years in public service and in a number of instances doing really valuable work. This Schultz guy is all ego.

The most important thing for the USA and the world is to get rid of Donald Trump. That should be the singular motive behind sane people in America - voters and those running.
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So, what do we all think about Howard Schultz potentially running as an Independent?



Consensus seems to be that nobody wants it, that it will siphon votes away from the Democratic nominee, dilute the anti-Trump vote, and get the clown re-elected. I think I agree.


“Fuck off” is my response.
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lol bloomberg already coming out with a "this will never work and you're an idiot for doing it" shot at schultz.

i read his book about turning starbucks around a couple years back. it completely ignores the employees in favour of a now-falsified narrative that he essentially singlehandedly saved the whole company all by himself thanks to his big-brained supergenius ideas (like closing unprofitable or poorly located stores) that nobody else on earth could possibly have thought of.

there is zero doubt in my mind that he has thoroughly convinced himself that he can do the exact same thing with america. he wants to "save" the country the same way "he saved starbucks".
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this seems like a good thing

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and in your daily reminder that the president is a racist old man who has zero business being where he is...

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The president has also claimed to guests, without evidence, that his private dining room off the Oval Office was in “rough shape” and had a hole in the wall when he came into the West Wing and that President Barack Obama used it to watch sports, according to two White House officials and two other people who have heard him discuss the dining room. “He just sat in here and watched basketball all day,” Trump told a recent group, before saying he upgraded Obama’s smaller TV to a sprawling, flat-screen one, the four people said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.e86f920328ce
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https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1...651493378?s=21

Was anyone surprised ?
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So, what do we all think about Howard Schultz potentially running as an Independent?
As a 17-year Starbucks employee, I have so many thoughts. None of them good. If he runs, I'll lose pretty much all my respect for him.

He's doing a book signing at HQ soon. I wish I had the ovaries to go up there with a sign that says "PLEASE DON'T DO THIS."

Instead, I will stay far away from the event. (I already have signed copies of his first two books anyway.)
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Here’s the thing

We’re on the same side. Clinton’s point was that any time a supporter or her, or herself came out and made a claim, you had hundreds of Bernie supporters to rip her/them to shreds.

My second tweeted post was to state that we will never find a pure candidate. There will be SOMETHING from the past that is dug up, or a statement that isn’t 100% progressive enough for some.

This is does the Democratic Party no good. Why can’t we get behind a candidate that supports 85% of what we want? Why does it have to be all or nothing ? Why does the person even have to be “likable” ?

Harris’ donations and the stuff you posted about her time as a prosecutor should be vetted. But is it possible that she’s changed since moving into congress ? Are we going to say she’s the same as Trump or whatever the GOP has become today ?

We will see the same song and dance in 2020 with the social media trolls, the bickering, and it’ll give Trump the White House again.

Can’t we all just get along?
Well, at least get along better.
I too wonder if she's changed o n any of those issues.

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She’s so salty. Legit, all of her interviews have been her complaining about 2016. She has every right to do so but she’s gotta know people don’t really want to hear it.
Talking about the sexism in the race is something i do want her to keep mentioning.
(and, yes, she should have gone to Michigan and Wisconsin [smakes person who gave her that advice!])

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What Sanders supporters never bring up is the oodles of opposition research he would have faced, including the accusations of being a communist.

Yes, I know. Socialism isn't communism. I know that. I'm not who you have to convince.
You have to convince an electorate who voted for a broke con man because he was portrayed as being a successful business titan on TV that socialism isn't communism.
THIS.

Even I who grew up partially in the 60's (not talking about "the 60's" here) with a "Better dead than Red" attitude I learned over decades about
Euro and Scandinavian Democratic Socialism.

I have no trouble taking on Laizze-faire or Crony Capitalism's dangers and destructiveness! I want a mixed economy, and maybe even democratic socialism.

And i believe he's Jewish. Talk about another major thing agsinst him in some circles!

HAIS, if u said "old white people" voted for drumph this older white woman knows plenty of older white people ( women and men) who didn't. I don't know the stats on this, tho.

Oh, i guess The Metro is back to normal now.

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One thing I’ll agree with is that the Democrats are way too hesitant/scared when it comes to pushing progressive ideas.

Maybe Obama is a little more progressive if he didn’t have to spend the first year or two of his presidency cleaning up Dubya’s financial mess (and the wars).

I’ll give Bernie this, he did push a more progressive agenda. Forced Clinton to adapt a little bit.

Warren seems to have some of the same ideas, at least in regards to regulating Wall St (which she has tried to pass actual legislation), healthcare, and taxes on the Uber wealthy / corporations
I'm glad Bernie did push Obama some. And yeah you make a very good point about him partially being so caught up in saving the country and world from a deep depression!

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There won't be another shutdown.

Right now the best exit strategy for Trump is to not come to a deal because any deal he comes to will not satisfy his base. So he can't agree with Nancy "Nancy" and declares a national emergency. This will fail in the courts immediately based on precedent and plain common sense but the court battles will take a while, there will be many appeals all the while nothing is being built (nevermind land being expropriated via eminent domain). And that's how the wall will die a quiet and slow death, never to be spoken of again.
hope so!

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And the next time a white kid takes his parents’ assault weapons and shreds another classroom of first graders into hamburger because that’s what the NRA wants, President Harris can declare a state of emergency and confiscate all the high powered weaponry owned by white men everywhere from sea to shiny sea.


And welcome to your husband going back to work (for a while, anyway? F U, drumph!)
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Although, we’ll absolutely have SEVERAL more school shootings before November 2020, lol.


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As a 17-year Starbucks employee, I have so many thoughts. None of them good. If he runs, I'll lose pretty much all my respect for him.

He's doing a book signing at HQ soon. I wish I had the ovaries to go up there with a sign that says "PLEASE DON'T DO THIS."

Instead, I will stay far away from the event. (I already have signed copies of his first two books anyway.)
Hey, cori, you could stand in the back of the event w sunglasses on, and have a big lettered sign.
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